Gibson SG 1983

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  1. noise

    noise New Member

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    Hi
    I have a Gibson SG Special from 1983.
    I can find very little information about the guitar, only one document.
    The SG has a "hardwood body" (no Mahony) 3-piece maple neck and ebony fingerboard. What means hardwood? Popular?
    On this site i found my sg by cataloques 1983
    1 tone and 2 volume knobs.
    The color look likes green The finish has many cracks.
    The bridge is wrap-arround.
    Does anyone have information or documentation may be more for me?
    See picture, strange is, that mine have a ebony fretboard.
    Have anyone some information?Regards Noise
     
  2. dbb

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    Mahogany?
     
  3. noise

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    No the body is hardwood, not mahogany.
    The fingerboard is nice ebony.
    Thanks for the reply.
     
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    Thanks for the reply.
    Yes that is the same as my SG,but my fretboard is ebony and wraparround bridge.
    The body is poplar.. Unfortunately, cheap wood.
    But the fretboard is ebony, i like that.
    The sound is clear and brite of my SG.
    The guitar is not heavy.
    Guitar made of alder or mahogany are much heavier.
    It was a budget SG from 1983.
    I cannot find any information or reviews only my first picture.
     
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    everdying Well-Known Member

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    that looks like it was originally silver color.
    it looks green, cos well thats how it ages.
    u'll also see vintage silverbursts that have almost the same greenish color.
    as for the pickups, well time for u to look under and find out if they're still original or not.

    along with if what u said is an ebony fretboard, coupled with the special color, would probably mean it was a limited edition.
     
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    [quote author=noise link=topic=21888.msg262051#msg262051 date=1317415835]

    Guitar made of alder or mahogany are much heavier.
    It was a budget SG from 1983.
    I cannot find any information or reviews only my first picture.
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    I have a copy SG of alder, and it seems to be about the same weight as a mahogany model; I never thought of poplar as a possible choice, maybe walnut, but poplar should sound fine.
     
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    Thanks all for the reply.
    The color looks for sure a sort of green.. but maybe new it was silverburst.
    My first picture is sure my guitar.
    The only different is that mine have a ebony fretboard.
    That's strange i think.. It play and sounds nice..
    The bridge pickup is Wolftone, the neck Jake Jones.
    The orginal tuners are changed for Grovers.
    My first picture with the specs is the only i can find on the internet.
    It is also here published on this site, by brochures.
    Maybe the rosewood fingerboards where be selled out and the put enbony?
     
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    [quote author=dbb link=topic=21888.msg262054#msg262054 date=1317424823]
    I have a copy SG of alder, and it seems to be about the same weight as a mahogany model; I never thought of poplar as a possible choice, maybe walnut, but poplar should sound fine.
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    I think it would be a poplar choice.
     
  12. noise

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    thanks again for the replies guys!
    Indeed the cheap popular wood, its soft and not heavy.
    poplar is unfortunately wood.
    Ok but it plays and sounds very good.
    I hope to find more info, because of the ebony fretboard.
    I know not why Gibson used this.
    I hope somebody can tell more
    I sent a email to Gibson, but no response.
     
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    [quote author=noise link=topic=21888.msg262064#msg262064 date=1317502954]
    Ok but it plays and sounds very good.
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    Hey, that's all that counts.

    [quote author=njpaulc link=topic=21888.msg262063#msg262063 date=1317500534]

    I think it would be a poplar choice.
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    Popular.."lar"...OK, anyone seen the musical "Wicked" and the song "Popular"? they make a joke based on that vowel shift.
    I should wonder about asking you guys if y'all know show tunes... :D

    Well I liked njpaulc's joke.
     
  14. Col Mustard

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    Wood choice for a guitar can be quite subjective. I believe that the major guitar makers choose Mahogany and
    Ash, Rosewood and Alder for good reason, because they are workable in a factory and they sound good. But if your guitar is made of Poplar, that's not necessarily bad. Especially if it sounds good. As dbb says, that's the only thing that counts, unless you are trying to buy and sell for profit.

    and by the way, Welcome to ETSG. I have not seen a post from you before, so I'll say hello. not that I know everything. 8) I think you have an interesting and unusual SG. especially if it sounds good.

    Here is one theory about why Gibson might choose one wood over another in 1983... Politics and the availability of their preferred material. In 1982 & 3, if I remember right, there was a lot of trouble in Nicaragua and Guatemala. Revolution and upheaval, with repercussions in this country. But Mahogany from Central America is one of the main sources for Gibson. Also the Phillipine Islands (sp), which were disrupted by volcanic activity then too, as well as politics. Gibson gets mahogany from several African countries too, and I don't remember the political situation there in 1982, but it was probably desperate as usual.

    So if they couldn't get any good mahogany from normal sources because of politics etc, they would be very likely to buy some from secondary sources and keep their factory workers busy making guitars. Mahogany doesn't grow in the U.S. (to my knowledge) but poplar does, and we make furniture, gunstocks, toys, fishing lures... all kinds of things from it. So don't worry too much, just play your SG, and welcome to the fraternity here.
     
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    Thank you for this reply Col!
    was curious about the wood.
    See my first image.
    This is all I can about my SG.
    It is stated a rosewood fretboard.
    Mine has an ebony fretboard.
    Perhaps Gibson ebony and rosewood used interchangeably?
    The guitar is nice weight.
    The combination of body, maple neck and ebony fretboard give the guitar a very bright tone.
    The paint has been a lot of cracks and has a very distinct green color.
    I can not find that it is not a real gibson.
    Correct serial number created in August 1983 in Nashville
    Kalamazoo was a transitional period in my opinion.
    Greetings from the Netherlands!
     
  16. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    oh yes, and one more thing about Gibson in 1983. The company was losing money badly, and was owned by an international Corporation known as "Norlin." This corporation had bought Gibson as an investment, to make profit. But profit was not to be had in 1983, due to many factors, including the popularity of Synthesizers over guitars. So the Norlin Corporation was trying to decide whether to close the company or not, and they may have been using up whatever wood they had in order not to waste it.

    By 1986, the Gibson company had been sold to a group of investors who actually worked there, and who were determined to keep Gibson guitars alive. These leaders (with the support of the employees) were able to restore the company to a healthy condition and keep making our favorite guitars. This may be why it is difficult to find information on your instrument. Others here at ETSG may know more than I do about these things. There were a number of interesting Gibson guitars in development at that time, which never were produced. A pity. But the Gibson company seems to be in good shape now, if only the government bureaucrats will let them do their work without interference.
     
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    Hi Thanks again for your info.
    1983 Unfortunately is not the moment for a good Gibson guitar.
    Still like my budget Gibson, nice and light, and has its own clear sound. And I love an ebony fingerboard.
    I had the choice of an SG faded out with the old in 1983.
    The price was right, I think the older Gibsons just a little different.
     
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    Gibson used that silver finish on several budget models in 1983. They all quickly developed finish checking, and have become greener over time. Some of the later 1980s Specials have ebony fretboards, but the early ones are all rosewood. Of course, mine is the only 1984 Special I've found with a mahogany body, so maybe yours is a one-off too.
     
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    Hi thanks for the reply.
    Mine is more green than gray.. is from august 1983 Nashville.
    I have seen the pics.. Mine have a combination bridge tailpiece.
    Unfortunately I miss two screws back of the bridge
     
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    [quote author=noise link=topic=21888.msg262300#msg262300 date=1318859293]
    Unfortunately I miss two screws back of the bridge
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    Gibson installed these bridges without the two screws.
     

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