'18 Autumn shade SG and its paint.

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  1. Silverman

    Silverman New Member

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    After years of pining for an SG, I finally found one by making a half-hearted bid on Ebay that actually won. I ended up scoring a mint '18 sg standard for about 860!.

    This is my first Gibson, and I was worried about buying it sight unseen, but the risk payed off. It sounds like a Gibson, but plays like a PRS with low action and frets that are just the right size.. there are some slight blemishes where the binding paint seems to have bled slightly around where the neck meets the body, but it isn't very noticeable.

    A concern that I was prepared for has to do with the static pops. no other guitar I have owned has ever done this. I heard somewhere that it is because of the paint they use (nitro), and eventually the paint will stop holding as much static. Any truth to this? I'd love t]o hear some tip[s about this.

    Are there any other concerns I should know about in terms of the paint, like leaving it out of it's case during humid nights, or foam rubbing off on it, etc.?

    Thanks for reading
     
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    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum. "Pics or it didn't happen" is our unofficial motto and we love guitar porn. I own a bunch of Gibsons with none of the issues you quote. If you get static, wipe it down with a fabric softener sheet. Nitro is the same as automotive paint. It is very stable and can be cleaned with lighter fluid if necessary, though the fey may use some sort of Goo Gone crap, but I usually just wipe mine down with an old cotton tee shirt before I put it away.
    That's my take on it.
     
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    Nothing to be concerned about, it's totally normal with newer gloss-finished Gibsons: They apply a charge to them while spraying the finish at the factory for better adherence of the nitro, and it does take a bit of time for it to dissipate completely. How long varies from guitar to guitar (I've had new ones that had the static noise as long as 8-10 months, some as short as 2 months). As mentioned above, dryer sheets can help speed up the process but in my experience just playing it a lot works best to get rid of the static. Enjoy your new guitar.
     
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  4. volktar

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    No pictures.
    This thread is a lie.
     
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  5. Steve D

    Steve D Well-Known Member

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    That's a fantastic deal for a guitar that was like $1900 list price new just a year ago. Congrats on that, I've heard the 2018s were good ones (all the griping about everything Gibson sucking for the last 10 years notwithstanding). The finish issues are a shame but i have an SG where the red dye on the neck stained the binding pink and everyone tells me to just enjoy it and appreciate that this just makes it unique. So unless it's driving you insane I'd say that has worked out to be good advice to me so maybe it is for you too.
     
  6. Retrop

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    Congrats on the new guitar! I have the same model in the same finish and it is one of the better new Gibsons I have played! (Which is good since I ordered it from Sweetwater having never played it.) Always wanted a 'burst SG with a small pickguard and now I have one! To answer your question, for mine, the static went away after about 2 months of playing it a few times a week (minimum). Best of luck and enjoy the new guitar!
     
  7. volktar

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    Static is the new 60 cycle hum
     
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    One other thing.
    Nitro and vinyl do not get along well.
    If you use a synthetic strap do not leave that strap against the guitar when you put it in the case The synthetic may chemically react with the nitro and "burn" the guitar finish.
    Also, do not leave the guitar resting on top of an old Kustom
    or Plush amplifier if you by some remote chance have one.
    The vinyl upholstery on the amp will "burn" the guitar finish.

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  9. volktar

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    Whoh, seriously? I have never heard that. Isn't the cheap strap that comes with new gibsons synthetic? Man, I feel like that should come with a warming label...
    (Mine are leather, but still - that's nuts they would include something in the box that would damage your thousand dollar instrument)
     
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  11. Silverman

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    Sure, I'd love to show it off. The autumn shade is a thing of beauty, and I love the purity of its design - no coil taps, active bullshit or fancy shenanigans. Just some barky, rascally pickups on a slim and super light frame and a 3 way toggle switch. And the blemishes are hardly a deal breaker. I must have caught Ebay sleeping, because I usually get blown out of the water during the last hour of auctions. Glad I was patient!
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    A beauty !

    I learned about vinyl another way. The black vinyl seat in my van started ripping (no clue why this one spot) and I tried different kinds of tape to keep it from spreading. They would all have their glue melt and become gooey, even the expensive Gore-Tex patches, within a few days.

    I then found a tape made especially for vinyl. Here's description of the product: Type B vinyl repair patch sticks to - Vinyl and Vinyl-coated material ONLY. Vinyl has oils that are absorbed by most adhesives which causes the adhesive to turn gooey, gummy, and ultimately lose bond. Tear-Aid vinyl repair patches contain an inhibitor that blocks the oils found in vinyl resulting in a long lasting repair.

    Who would have thought that vinyl was so pernicious ? The tape has been in place for more than a month now, with no sign of degradation.
     
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    Very nice SG. Looks great with a burst. If you're looking for a stand or hanger, Hercules brand are nitro safe and shouldn't have any effect on the finish. I've used them for years and never had an issue.
     
  14. Retrop

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    That is one gorgeous guitar, you definitely got a great deal there! (I paid quite a bit more for mine haha) Glad you are enjoying it! Little blemishes are no big deal, especially when you get it at a great price, and that makes it a lot less painful when you get that inevitable first ding in it!
     
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    She's a beauty! :smile:

    Congratulations, and Happy NGD to ya!:cheers:
     
  16. volktar

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    THATS what Im talkin about! What a beaut!
    Im pretty sure if I ever go in on a Standard, it's gonna have to be autumn shade. Love that scheme.
     
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    Congratulations, you got a great deal !

    With a POWG* finish !

    *PAINTED ON WOOD GRAIN

    Probably done by the same artist as mine :

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    Sorry about the glare.

    It used to have just pickup rings, I had just installed the pickguard on it.
     
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    Yes! The pics! Autumn Shade is real scrumptious, Im thinking...now drag it to a gig and whale the tar out of it. SGs are such great guitars, just the best of everything. Tone, ergonomics, and looks. You done good, Silver!
     
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    Welcome to ETSG and congratulations
    on finding such a great deal on one of Gibsons best
    guitars.

    I recommend a few things to guys who are just getting
    into their first SG.

    1. Professional setup: You saved plenty on buying this guitar, so I'd recommend you take it to the best luthier
    you can find or afford, and get it set up. Get the luthier
    to check over every solder joint, get the neck straight
    or with the relief you prefer,
    check the frets for level,
    check the nut slots, adjust the action and set the intonation. This will enhance your SG experience.

    2. A certain level of guardianship: Gibson guitars can be damaged more
    easily than Fenders or Asian made guitars. Don't allow your Gibson to fall
    over, never lean it against a wall on the headstock, don't let anybody play
    your Gibbie if they've been drinking... don't leave it for months out on
    a cheap guitar stand. Buy a good one that won't interact with the finish.
    Or wrap some fabric around the rubber pads, so they don't touch the guitar.
    >If you have to play on a cramped stage, with cables and drums and amps
    and keyboards and mic stands all over, find an out of the way place to
    put your SG, on the best stand you can afford. Don't let anybody trip over
    it. Like Professor Moody said: "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!"
    >Always use an angled plug on your guitar cable. There is enough leverage in a straight plug to actually snap the SG across the lower bout, right along the grain of the wood, right through the hole for the jack... If you decided to leap in the air at the same time that the singer was coming back down,
    and the heel of her motor-huckle boot stomped on your cable as you were
    leaving the ground... The crowd might love it, but...

    Not trying to scare you, just school you. The Gibson guitar design includes
    a weak point right where the headstock joins the neck. The 17 degree back
    angle crosses the grain of the mahogany, and the headstock can break off
    right there, if subjected to a blow, like falling flat on its face on a hard floor
    when someone tangled their sandals in the cable. NO BIRKENSTOCKS ONSTAGE PLEASE... (or in the music room) That's just askin' for it.

    Some of us, (like me) believe that the Gibson 17 degree back angle is one
    of the factors that give us the awesome tone we expect from our Gibsons.
    So vigilance is the price we pay for this. Gibbies with maple necks are much
    stronger than traditional mahogany. The grain isn't as weak right at that
    spot.
     
  20. volktar

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    Man, I keep coming back to that color... so gorgeous. Was this offered on any other years/models? I'd love to pick up a standard, but prefer more of a 50's full neck and 57 classics if I can find a match...
     
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