2019 Quality?

Discussion in 'Gibson SG' started by Carl Kolchak, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. Lunacy the Faded

    Lunacy the Faded Active Member

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    Gibson 2019 junior buy it now, thank me later

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  2. AngelDeVille

    AngelDeVille Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how a nut could fail, but alright...

    I'm not anyones R&D department so it will be many years before the bugs are worked out and I buy one with robots.

    I'm eyeballing the blue one, I just don't like the funky top route control cavity, and pickguard.
     
  3. SG standard

    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    Quality control is what most people complain about with Gibson. There will always be issues with mass produced consumer goods, but they need to be sorted out in quality control - before they reach the dealer or consumer. As a recent example: A UK dealer took delivery of 50 custom shop Les Pauls last year, and had to return 9 of them due to flaws. If Gibson can't do better than that with their custom shop model, what hope have they with the Gibson USA range?

    Now, some dealers don't check out their guitars so thoroughly (these were all photographed, weighed, etc), so even though you're more likely to get one of the 41 OK ones when buying online, there's still a good chance you could get one of the 9 flawed ones. This is why there are so many complaints, but still a lot of people saying all their Gibsons have been fine.
     
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    So I guess since none of my Gibsons have quality issues that there are four guys out there who got my duds or one who got all four right? :rofl: I don't have authoritative proof that there are countless blatherskites who rant mendaciously on internet guitar sites, but thanks for the anecdotal contribution. You really have to ignore the folks who pull numbers out their colon to prop up their contentions.
     
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    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    Indeed! Especially when they don't know the meaning of the words they're using. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Ray

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    Every example of a model varies. Every axe is different. Every dog has its day. ;)
     
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    I would have bought one already if they weren't top-routed with a giant pickguard.
     
  8. jojo68

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    Fairly well known that it didn't take long for those shitty brass nuts to develop gooves in them, as someone mentioned Gibson does offer replacements.
     
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  9. Ray

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    What arcticSG said is very true IMO. If the 19's match 2017/2018-quality, you most likely have nothing to worry about.

    If I were you I'd grab a 2018 Standard, used or for a nice price at a store. That way you save some money, and you get a great guitar. I got one of those. It had everything I was looking for; slim neck, no robotcrap, neckbinding, teardrop pickguard, high-quality finish, AND to top it off: Its available in other colors than cherry! Autumn Shade is IMO a very nice finish. Also it changes A LOT, depending on lighting :)

    I played at least four, five, six of the 2018 Standards before I got mine, but mine was in Gotenburg, Sweden, cause there were no Autumn Shades left in Norway. I had it put on hold a few weeks before I had the money. (No fee or anything. Didnt pay until I played it. Great service.)

    Then I took my two daughters and my sweetheart with me and the four of us went off in my car. :D (Real cool trip:D My two daughters got their first axes as well:D) I just hoped the Standard in Sweden was as good as the others I had played, and I was lucky - it was. :D
     
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  10. papagayo

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    Brass nut was used only on 2015 models but Gibson send you a free titanium nut if you ask for.

    TUSQ have an adjustable nut too.

     
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  11. papagayo

    papagayo Active Member

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    What SG / finish interests you?
     
  12. jojo68

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    Good god, no ****. Did you not read the last part of my reply ?

    "as someone mentioned Gibson does offer replacements."
     
  13. AngelDeVille

    AngelDeVille Well-Known Member

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    Do you have to work at being a ****, or does it come natural?
     
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  14. Ray

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    That question popped up my mind, too, Angel ...
     
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    That double cutaway LP Junior with the P90 is tempting.
     
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  16. Col Mustard

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    Welcome to ETSG... we have lots of diverse opinions here
    but not too much rancor and angst. We might speak our minds
    but you get to read all the posts and make up your own.

    ETSG wisdom:

    Play it before you buy it.

    The more picky you want to be about 'quality issues"
    the more this maxim applies. If you are picky, don't buy
    a guitar online, unplayed, on the basis of advice from strangers like me
    who know nothing about your music, your style, your preferences
    and/or your level of expertise.

    ETSG wisdom states:

    Go where they sell them, and play as many as they'll let you.
    Buy the one that comes alive in your hands. if none does this,
    then keep looking. The one you want is out there...

    If you can't do this, then you might be too busy to be considering a
    Gibson. Each Gibson guitar is a unique instrument, and they still
    include a lot of hand work. So IMHO... general statements about one
    year class or another are mostly bull taco. No general statements apply
    to individual instruments. You have to play it.

    If you are too busy to search for your new Gibson in person, then
    consider getting an Epiphone. I'm a Gibson fan, but I'm also an
    Epi fan, and feel that Epi guitars keep getting better and better.
    All of the "quality issues" that people bring up about Gibson guitars
    are unplugged when you get an Epiphone. They are so cheap that you
    can afford to get them professionally set up, get an SKB case
    and replace wiring and switches... bridge, nut and other parts until you have exactly what you want. I've done this, with excellent results.

    Anyway, good luck with your quest. There are lots of guys on the
    internet who feel that being highly critical of Gibson makes them seem
    erudite and discriminating. Well read and musically well versed.

    It does not. Most Gibson bashing is just more bull taco. And we've all
    had enough, haven't we? The fact is: Gibson makes great guitars.
    The 2019s are hopefully being built by guys who are trying to save their
    company from death. If Gibson crawls out of the hole dug for them by
    their "management" it will be because of the efforts of the guys on the
    factory floor, making great guitars.

    You be the judge. Then return and report. We'll all be interested in
    what your opinion of the newest year class might be.
     
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