61 reissue with ABR and nickel hardware?

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  1. mcv

    mcv New Member

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    looking for a cherry red ´61 reissue that has the ABR bridge (not the TOM) and nickel hardware (bridge, pups covers, tailpiece)
    any year i should look for?
    SG stardard?
     
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    arcticsg Well-Known Member

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    2003 and down for ABR1 bridge. Some later 2003's may have the Nashville bridge.

    Pretty sure all standard RI will have nickel hardware. There are a few special issues that have gold hardware, but they don't count :D
     
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    bwotw Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, late 80's to about 2003 for a nickel and ABR1 SG 61RI.

    But, actually, the current model is back to nickel hardware and ABR1 bridge...
    https://www.gibson.com/Guitar/USAMSH499/SG-Standard-61-2019


    Around the time they changed the ABR1 to Nashville (or shortly after) they also changed the plating from nickel to chrome.
     
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    As mentioned, 2003 and lower.

    I have a 2001 that’s has a beautiful patina to it now. Love it.

    Basically the Gibson Custom Shop VOS treatment, except instead of paying an extra $2000 I just got to play and enjoy it for 18 years
     
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    pancake81 Well-Known Member

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    Looking back, I feel like a good a really good shake buying the 2001 61 re-issue. The nickel hardware has aged beautifully, they used the proper crown placement back then, and it was pre Nashville bridge (2003 and later).

    Nothing wrong with the Nashville bridge, just not fitting to put it on a 61 re-issue to me. Those years really are a good example of the 61 features.

    I do find it interesting that Gibson keeps attaching itself to the year 1961 though. Sure, it’s an important year for SG’s; no doubt. But they love making 61 re-issues. Even when the guitar itself has a completely different configuration than what we saw in 1961.

    Why not a 1970 re-issue, why not a 68 or a 69. All amazing guitars! No need for such focus on 61. In fact, I think if they did a run of 68,69 or 70 reissues they would sell like a hot damn. And they would barely have to change anything at the factory. SG nits would embrace the change and focus.

    I love my 61 reissue, amazing guitar. Play it almost every day. But the 61 reissue as a model has become over saturated. I would love to see some other years featured. Hell, I might even pick up another one if they chose another epic year and did a run.

    Take for example the 2019 61 reissue with maestro. How the heck is that a 61? I have yet to see a 61 with a maestro... why not make that same guitar and call it a 68. People would love it.

    Just saying. Rant over
     
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    Bob Womack Active Member

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    Sweetwater and Dave's put out a run in 2016 with ABR-1, nickel hardware, and '57 Classic and '57 Classic Plus pickups. They are nice if you can find 'em.

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    Bob
     
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    pancake81 Well-Known Member

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    Nice,

    Same as the early 61 re issues, but with the addition of the 57 classic plus instead of two 57 classics

     
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    The 2019's have ABR's and nickel, with the '61 pickups for good measure.
     
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    So just the headstock crown (holly) is different. Did they keep the larger headstock of the original 61 reissue, or go standard size?
     
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    I see they went with an “SG” truss rod cover for 2019. That’s new. To my knowledge the re issues always had a blank TRC, which always seemed wrong to me as well. I believe in 61 the SG’s were wearing “Les Paul” TRC’s until 1963
     
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    Yeah, "Les Paul" is what the trussrod cover said in -61. That "SG" cover didnt show up before the seventies I think. That t.r cover is not a big deal, but I agree, after what I have read on ETSG it seems that Gibson should put more effort into nailing the details on so-called RIs. And that "61-hangup" ....A 1964 Gibson SG Standard RI? Yes please!
     
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  12. mcv

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    yes, i just found out, thanks!
    Any opinions on 61 pickups vs 57's?
     
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    I definitely prefer them in an SG. They're a little brighter, and the A5 mags drive the amp harder somehow. They have a bit more of a "T-Top" thing going on than a "PAF" thing which to me is definitely preferable in an SG. Still like the 59's in a Les Paul though.
     
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    My two cents:

    I have only played with 61s for a very short while, and at the moment I don't have any guitars with 57 Classics in them, so I can't do any direct comparisons. However, to my ears, the 61s have more low and top end, and the 57 Classics are more mid focused. Both are very nice pickups.

    Here's a video where you get at least a bit of a comparison. The playing starts around 5:45.
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    I think it's actually somewhere in between. It looks like it's not as pointy as the '61RI but not as narrow as the Standard.
     
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    Interesting
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps a Reissue of a Reissue?
     
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    Lol. It can always get stranger
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    Well, it would be more accurate. I never liked the pointy RI headstock.
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    I like the 2016 Gibson '61 Reissue Limited Edition Proprietary but hardware is not nickel. 2019 is the year.

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