Bye bye circuit board!

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  1. ChrisM84

    ChrisM84 Member

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    Pulling out the PCB from my ‘61 standard and putting in the 1960 wiring harness from creamtone. Also replacing the 61 pickups with 57 classics. I’m kind of excited lol

    Has anyone used this wiring harness before and noticed a change?
     
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    Just curious, how long have you had the guitar ? Almost 4 months ? And all this:
    ... is going to the parts bin ?

    I hope you're not expecting too much. We tend to chase our tail looking for that elusive tone ... we already have. What made that guitar lose it's magic in those few months ?

    I did that with a Squier Classic Vibe 50's Stratocaster. Put the bees knees of pickups in it, a set of Custom Shop 65 Gray Bottom Fender pickups coming right out of someones new Strat. They were worth the same price as the guitar they were going in. Only to put the original Toneriders back in a month later. Can be costly not to succomb to all we read on forums.
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    We need a rehab forum.
     
  3. ChrisM84

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    Lol all of that is still true, fortunately. I’m not expecting much of any difference from the harness, just would prefer the “traditional” set up in there, if that makes any sense.

    61s are great! Just so happens I don’t have a guitar with 57s anymore, and miss the A2 sound. No magic lost!
     
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    DrBGood Well-Known Member

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    "Traditional" :cool: Once the back cover is on, all the difference is in the head ... and your wallet.

    But you seem to accept that and that's OK.
     
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    We shouldn't make changes unless there's an issue. Yea, fat chance. I've come to accept I like to upprade stuff unless it's completely pointless. It's sort of a compulsive hobby.
     
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    Seem like you're not alone :)
     
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    very true...

    it's a disease... it's called Mod Fever.
    I've been subject to it. Mostly when I've fallen for a guitar so hard
    that I can't leave it alone, in case what it has might not be the best...

    In retrospect, this is silly. But when the fever is on me, I can't
    leave the soldering iron in its holster. In truth, my electric guitars
    have all been modded until I can't think of anything more they might
    possibly need (with the exceptions of bigsbies and coil splitting circuits)
    I don't need those. *grins

    I recommend you leave the '61s in your SG, and get another one
    with the '57s. Why? The '61s are great, you say so yourself.
    BUT: the Gibson '57 classic and classic plus are simply the best p'ups
    for any SG. So I think you should have both. Then you can report
    to us which is the best.

    How to do this? Buy another SG! of course... rip out whatever it had
    in it, and buy a set of '57 classic and classic plus... install them with
    fifties wiring of course, and then return and report.

    We await the results of your reconnaissance.
     
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    brazilnut Active Member

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    Gee, Colonel, you say that the '57s are the best pickups for an SG...what about a 498T in the bridge? Or a PAF clone from a premium winder? After buying a pair of Castles, I installed them in my daily driver, and the difference in tone was remarkable. I had to reset my effects pedals and the EQ of my amp. Marvelous tone, fat, juicy, and full of harmonics. '57s are sterile and squeaky by comparison. You get what you pay for.
     
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    Yes they all noticed their bank accounts were about $160 lighter and they are pretty sure they "opened up" the pickups tonal range. Most importantly, they got rid of the evil circuit board. I have to hide all my screwdrivers and pliers after one these threads to keep myself from ripping out the circuit boards in my car and house. Did you know that printed circuit boards cause global warming? That they were responsible for the measles outbreak? That Princess Di would be alive today if her car had point to point wiring?
     
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    It's easy to solder those two-wire plugs to the old style pickup wire. Then you just plug em into the PCB. I like those boards!
     
  11. ChrisM84

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    Didn’t know I crossed a line!

    ....Still taking it out :)

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    No lines crossed, although I do find that particular prejudice on internet fora a peculiarity, but then maybe you're uploading from a point to point wired vacuum tube computer, how would I know, right?:cool:
     
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    I’m still on Dial up!
     
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  14. Joncaster

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    I'm all for changing electronics in guitars, if you require a certain performance change.
    Or just to wile away time, stay out of trouble;)

    I've spent plenty of hours fiddling around in my Tele's control cavity. Just dialling in different setups,
    changed the pickups and pickgaurd, humbucker neck, partial coil taps, 4-way switches, series OOP, etc.
    Good fun figuring it all out. Hair-pulling sometimes.
    When it comes time for the gig, I have a better feel at my finger tips.

    I'll tackle my SG control cavity as well. Nothing wrong with the PCB and pickups, but there's room to grow.
    I know what I like in terms of control response, and some tweaks can be made, for sure.
    Doesn't take me very long to know that I want a different pot taper, or maybe a treble bleed or something.

    It's all about the journey into the real workings of your instrument, to fine-tune your voice and performance.
    An appreciation of electronics really helps inform your playing and tone.
    You become more rounded as an artist, i think, to view your rig holistically.
     
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    Just play the damn thing :rofl:
     
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    // Just play the damn thing....

    I spend too much time thinking and too little time bending strings....
     
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    I haven’t taken the control covers off my two ‘17’s and my ‘15.... dunno if they has boards or not...

    I did rewire my ‘18 cuz I wanted kill switches.

    Kill switches are cool.
     
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  18. El Mike

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    I changed the controls from circuit board to standard components and switched the mini hums to Bare Knuckle Supermassive P90s on my 2018 SG Special. With in two weeks of reciveing it, Cause I wanted to. I knew I would never bond with the stock setup. It's become my number 2 in my stable of bitchin guitars.
     
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    Why not just nick the cable near the plug and short it out with your palm muting hand? (Seriously, I think "kill switches" are the stupidest idea since the Uroclub)
     
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    490R - 498T combo is fantastic, many sounds available, very good setup !

    :cheers:
     

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