Discussion in 'SG Copies' started by Chris Snow, May 12, 2018.
Hi all. Got this barn find SG. Not sure what it is, wondered if someone can help me ID it?
Looks like a really cheap 70's copy from Japan.
No clue what it is but damn that looks like its going to be fun to restore to a playable condition. That tremelo system is reminiscent of a Lyre or Maestro Vibrola but looks like it would use a spring like a Bigsby. I cant wait t o find out more. Im sure someone knows something.
I want to know how that bridge works.
Ok, it looks to be something from TEISCO. The bridge plate and "trem" is a dead give away. More then likely early 70's. I would be willing to bet money that the pickups are actually single coils in a humbucker shell. IF you decide to rebuild the trem, don't use it. They were unbelievably bad at returning to pitch.
I see why you might say that but I can't find any pics online of anything exactly like it from Tiesco. Not with the single tone and vol, the switch in the pick guard, truss rod adjustment at the headstock and no headstock decal.
I'm wondering if it's a bit of a parts-caster. The neck plate has one straight slot wood screw in it so maybe it's a Vox or Japanese body with some other manufacturer's neck on it?
If you expect help....you have to post more and better pictures! OK, just kidding Looks like a typical 70's Japan guitar, could be one of many brands. Might make a nice player guitar. Did you look in the cavity, you might see some clues on the pots etc. Also, seeing the underside of the pickups could yield some clues also. Good luck.
At the moment I have eBay listing pics, the guitar is being shipped now. I will indeed post some more detailed pictures and if anyone can help ID it that's great. More in hope than expectation
I have the Standard type version of this guitar. Block inlays, and 2 volume 2 tone pots with a full sized pick guard. Under the neck on the body it has a “200 V” stamp, and a Y in a circle on the back of the neck. Same zero fret, and longer top bout, and slightly more oblong body on the bottom rear. Will post picks soo . Also has crown badge the days Coronet on the headstock.
There are two kinds of MIJ guitars: really good ones, and really bad ones. This one belongs unfortunately in the second group. If it has a straight neck and good frets, $20-40 would be fair.
This is simply not true. Just because it is not as accurate or direct a copy as later Japanese guitars does not mean the quality is not good. Also, these sell for $250-300 all day.
As far as who made this, I'm not an MIJ expert, but Teisco had more wacky designs. This is a pretty standard '70s SG copy, and I'd put my money on Matsumoku or Fujigen.
However you feel about it, man. Bolt on, total junk hardware, total junk electronics, those tuners are a buzz fest, probably plywood body. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
I own five SG copy guitars, and they are all players. My number 1 guitar is a early 70’s Electra, solid mahogany body and neck, bolt on. I upgraded the pups with Gibson paf’s, the tuners with PRS take offs, and upgraded all of the electronics.
It is now an Sg killer. It’s the best sounding and playing guitar out of the 100’s of guitars I own or have owned over the years. Better than the multiple Gibson SG’s that I have owned.
Better in what way? That's a big claim.
Better in tone, playability, intonation, acoustics when unplugged. Just my opinion, and I had to upgrade parts. But of all the the Gibson SG’s that I have owned, this Electra, hands down sounds better.
A bolt on neck makes a guitar "bad"? Better tell that to David Gilmour! Junk hardware? You know this for a fact? And if that makes a guitar bad, my Custom Shop SG must a piece of **** because the bridge was set a bit too far forward from the factory, and flashing under the low E saddle made it rock a bit.
Buzzing tuners? Not an issue I've ever had on even the cheapest guitar. Sounds like you just didn't know enough to tighten the freaking nuts on them...
"Plywood body"? That is not plywood. Learn your woods before trying to criticize. I guess you must be a "tonewood" truther...
I don't have any opinion on these guitars, in fact. I just get tired of people shitting on things they've either never given a chance or due to assumptions and hearsay or popular belief or whatever.
Looks like it has a severe lack of upper fret access compared to Gibsons, so I don't see how the playability is better.
Tone is subjective. But if you think it's awesome, that's all that matters.
Jeeez Landy, had I known this would cause you so much pain and anger, I would have passed commenting on it. Take it easy, man.
Maybe you should have considered how this new member Scotty would feel coming in here to be told his guitars are cheap junk?
To each his own i always say. On subject of the unknown SG I think it is best to look for trademark signs on that guitar. TEISCO seem to prefer curved fingerboards where they meet the body then Kawai took over the Teisco brand. This guitar has angled headstock.. zero fret.. the bridge and trem look a bit like one i have seen on a Gar-Zim guitar which started using Kawai manufacture but then used other smaller factories.. Kawai was also famous for using string bars which this one does not have.. The zero fret is a good line to follow as is the bridge and tail piece. Some more detail about the wood and control cavities would be nice. It looks less like a direct Gibson/Epiphone clone than it does an "inspired by".. don't let the bolt on neck sway you.. just means that you can shim it for playability if necessary.. cant do that on a set neck guitar easily..
I would get in touch with the guy at "Drowninginguitars.com" as he is an expert in vintage Japanese guitars. I'd be excited to ID that guitar and get her back to playing condition.. have fun with it Chris..!!
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