Coil splitting,useful or not?

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Do you use the coil splitter?

  1. yes

    12 vote(s)
    29.3%
  2. rarely

    14 vote(s)
    34.1%
  3. not at all

    15 vote(s)
    36.6%
  1. Biddlin

    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    Simple poll question, please answer only if you own or have owned a guitar with push pull coil splitting.
     
  2. AngelDeVille

    AngelDeVille Well-Known Member

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    Split humbuckers sound like crap.
     
  3. Norton

    Norton Well-Known Member

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    Coils in parallel/series is FAR more interesting and useful than a “coil split” to my ears.
     
  4. PixMix

    PixMix Well-Known Member

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    I own three guitars with push pull coil splitting (1x LP, 2x SG). I voted rarely. To me, on these guitars, spit buckers sound ok on only when both (split) pickups are engaged, but otherwise not too useful.

    One of my SGs will be getting the 50s wiring, as soon as I get around it.
     
  5. Tiboy

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    I voted rarely. I’m not being facetious, but it depends on the day. Sometimes I say eh, other times I say yeah that’s the sound. My only current splittable guitar is a PRS 594.
     
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    Crap sounds like split humbuckers.

    I had it on a Tribute Plus. Tried it a few times. Not a fan.
     
  7. HackeIommi

    HackeIommi Active Member

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    I have one HSS Japanese Jackson and HH Gibson Nighthawk (which has a Fender scale length too) with coil-split humbuckers. I use them, and I am very glad, no complaints. They give me lots of versatility. But I prefer to use my SG just in HB mode. Coil-split sounds are not my favorite in short-scale guitars like SG and LP.
     
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    Voted rarely. The only guitars I own are SGs so when I want a slightly start-like tone I'll split both pups in middle position and it sounds pretty good.
     
  9. Chubbles

    Chubbles Well-Known Member

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    I moded a Strat to HSS. It had a Super Distortion on bridge. I didn't like the coil splitting tone. It's now HH.

    The problem is coil splitting does not sound like single coils.
     
  10. Kerry Brown

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    I have an old Vantage guitar with mini switches for coil tap and out of phase. It is the most versatile guitar I own. It has the original mighty mite ceramic pickups which sound great tapped. Very strat like. I have played other guitars with coil tap and was not impressed. I think some pickups respond to this better than others.
     
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    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    It may indeed be tapped, not split. Coil tapping cancels out the full length of the magnet by taking the signal from a shorter point in the wire, not necessarily isolating one coil.
     
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  12. Layne Matz

    Layne Matz Well-Known Member

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    Wow everybody.

    Split humbuckers in my g400 with 50s style wiring sounds excellent, highly similar to a ceramic single coil and works well to get a single coild tone w/out switching guitars. I would use it on the neck pup to get more of a hendirx, Allman, SRV tone, it worked well.

    Technically speaking I think that major difference between a split humbucker and a single coil is the magnet used and the baseplate its all attached to which definitely impacts the tone.

    I think all of the people speaking against it should give it a try without expecting it be one way or another. Its just as versatile as any regular humbucker or single.
     
  13. Biddlin

    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    Why would you assume we haven't?
     
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    Layne Matz Well-Known Member

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    I did not indicate that I was. I was suggesting everyone try again.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    I like P-90's.
    Sounds great to my ears.
    No need to split.
     
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    I have a Kiesel Strat type with HSS setup and a JB in the bridge. The biggest issue with trying to split that pickup is the balancing issue. If you adjust the bridge pickup so you get balanced single coil volume amongst the 3, when you play it in humbucker mode its like hitting a 10dB boost. Adjust it so the humbucker is balanced with the 2 single coils and its output is too low as a single coil.
     
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  17. 4wight

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    A bit of a truism, but it depends on the pickup and the guitar... I have a modded single pickup SG1 with a Bill Lawrence L100 at the bridge. It sounds great split, but maybe that's because it's quite a hot pickup to start with...or maybe I'm not looking for a specific Strat tone, just a bit of tonal variation.
     
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    I used to think it was useless when I didn't have them. But i've had a guitar with them for a while now (es-339 with DiMarzio 36th ann.) and I actually really like the split tone. It's best in the middle position, but the neck is good too.
     
  19. GrumpyOldDBA

    GrumpyOldDBA Well-Known Member

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    All of my guitars have it as option some have both coil split or tap switchable.

    I use it at times mostly playing clean and quieter songs.

    But still it is rare for me to use but an option i like to have on a guitar just in case.
     
  20. RazorReaver

    RazorReaver New Member

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    It most definitely depends on the pickup in question, how the guitar is wired and what expectations you have from the coil split. From pickups with asymmetrical coils to partial split resistors (or even dial-a-split knobs), people who desperately want the versatility usually find a way to make it work...

    I remember reading somewhere about a dude that used an inductor instead of a resistor for the partial split, and the way it affected the frequencies going to ground gave said dude the tone+output he was looking for.

    It is a 'yes' from me, but that answer is far from straightforward...
     

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