Epiphones are cheap junk

Discussion in 'Epiphone SG' started by Col Mustard, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. AngelDeVille

    AngelDeVille Well-Known Member

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  2. Col Mustard

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    okay, here's a link to the 'Gibson guitar forums" which also includes
    Epiphone fora... acoustic and electric. I found the thread in question on the
    "Epiphone Electrics" forum, and this is where some troll was badgering newbies
    who just bought a new Epi...

    The thread was about whether to ban the troll, and whether that would do any good,
    and whether there were any admins who were actually paying any attention
    and whether anyone would do anything meaningful about it
    and whether it would make any difference, since the troll could change his user name
    and sign up again, and resume his offensive behavior.

    http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/144950-revolution-six-abusing-this-site/

    Does this all sound familiar?
     
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  3. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    what do y'all think?

    I actually come here to read and consider what my colleagues on these boards
    might have to say.

    Me, I blocked the troll, and no longer see his posts, and pages and pages
    of dreary drivel disappeared. I made this point on the thread, and others
    countered that the most vulnerable members were the new ones, who didn't
    know the trolls from the sages.
     
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  4. deMelo

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    I think that trolling Epiphones, Squiers or any other budget guitars, per se, is stupid.

    There’s history and merit to those great instruments. Many professionals play them, and keep playing them even after owning higher end stuff.

    There are good and bad guitars in every niche of the market. There are pearls and lemons. But it’s also stupid to ignore the limitations of second line guitars and say, for instance, that one’s G310 or G400 beats all Gibsons.

    The main rule is: you get what you pay for, *up to a point*.
     
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  5. Col Mustard

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    jah, you betcha...

    I actually like both of my Epiphones...
    at this time I'm actually more fond of my Epi ES-339 P-90 pro than
    I am of my lovely Wilshire, which I will soon sell.

    I'm heartbroken to have to release guitars from my stable,
    but I've entered a new phase in my long and checkered life.
    I am now the care-giver for my lady love.
    She is suffering from a brain tumor which may or may not kill her quickly.
    My job is to be with her and care for her and guard her against all dangers
    real or imagined.

    This breaks my heart more than any material issue.

    Nothing else matters much. I am selling off my things,
    because things do not matter much. We will need the money later
    I'm sure. I am selling my house, because we need to move to a
    smaller place, with no stairs.

    I am selling my rifles and other firearms, because I don't think I will
    need them any more, and every time we hear about another school shooting
    I feel less attached to my weapons. Many of us are going through this
    same transformation... I believe it is a good thing. Let us all turn toward
    the light.

    I have sold all my 'vintage" instruments, and put that money by, so we can
    use it when we need it most. I will keep my Epiphone ES-339 P-90 pro which
    is pictured above, because I have deeply bonded with this guitar in spite of its
    Chinese pedigree and its Polyurethane finish.

    Getting old ain't for sissies... and none of us gets a choice.
    We deal with life according to the cards we have been issued.
    Does this give anyone a perspective on the issues we discuss?
    I hope so.

    My perspective is forever altered, but my feelings remain.
    And so we begin each new day. Every day is a gift.
     
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    Take care of your lady and yourself colonel. Hope for the best.
     
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    Yes. Do what you need to do and never look back.
     
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    I have had several Epi's over the years. A "Korina" SG and currently my 1960 V3 LP stand out to me as really decent guitars. The only thing I have not been fond of on the Epi's is the fretwire. It is lower than I like most fo the time. I had my V3 refretted shortly after I got it.

    I sold a 05 LP Standard and played my V3 for many years before picking up my 13 Gibby Studio and did not see it as a loss. I recently picked up a 17 Trad T as it was a great price and my Epi, while not the same thing, does well against any LP I have picked up. I did a comparison of the three over on another board recently.

    https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/comparison-of-lps-trad-t-studio-and-epi.427359/

    I do not see them as cheap junk at all. they have lower and upper end stuff like most everyone. Their lower end, like Squire's lower end, tends to be less attractive to me. Their upper end stuff though ... nice most of the time.
     
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    I am sorry to hear this and my thoughts are with you.
     
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    You refering to my oost years ago about my G310?
     
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    Col Mustard posted this on April 1st, as a joke.
     
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    Really sorry to hear this news Colonel. Wishing you and your lady love all the best.
    The moments are more precious than the possessions.
     
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    No. Don't remember having read it. Link?
     
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    My local shop just started carrying Epiphones again, and they seem to agree with the notion that they're junk. They've told me that they need a fair bit of work just to get them playable enough to hang on the wall. Unfortunately one thing they are not is cheap. A new G400 Pro for instance is going for $800 AUD new, while in the US the same guitar is $420 USD, or about $640 AUD right now. In contrast, there are many other guitars that go for around $800 down here that are much nicer, better instruments.

    Now my favourite guitar is my Epi '66 G400 Pro, so I'm not in anyway anti-Epi, but I got mine second hand for like $350 in very good condition. The electronics had some issues, so I replaced the pots and toggle myself. I also had a tech replace the stock bridge, as it couldn't be intonated properly, and install a new nut and do a setup. So all up I'm in for maybe $500 and have a really nice playing and sounding guitar.

    If I'd paid full retail for a new one and then also had to pay for those repairs/upgrades, which still would have likely been issues even for a new guitar, it would have been closer to $1k. So while I don't agree with Epiphones being junk, the quality is certainly not at level of other guitars in that price range. I would definitely never buy one new, but that's fine because even in my little corner of the world, lots of people start to play guitar and eventually give up, and so the second hand market is ripe for the picking.
     
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    I am sorry to hear that sir. I am a newbie but I am reading your posts for several years. My heart and prayers are with you.
     
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    thanks for all the good wishes, and apologies to anyone offended by my
    joke thread.
     
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    I think the majority of us here got the joke at your first post. And good wishes for a comfortable recovery for your wife are headed your way from London.
     
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    all the best to you both...!!
     
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    thanks dub-setter
     

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