Gibson SG standard help.

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  1. Gareth Martin

    Gareth Martin New Member

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    Hi All,

    I am new to this forum please excuse my ignorance.

    My father was in a band and has a Gibson SG standard with the serial number 147508. He can't remember what year he bought it. I've been on the Gibson website but cant find any information pre 1975. My father thinks it was bought in 1967,1968 or 1969.Does anyone know a way of finding more information on the guitar from the serial number.
     
  2. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    welcome!

    photos?

    serial numbers prior to 1977 will not be useful for indicating the date.

    check the pot codes in the control cavity. if original they can indicate earliest date the guitar was built.

    pot code format 137YYWW
    137 = CTS
    YY = Year
    WW = Week
     
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    zhivago New Member

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    Indeed, photos would help a lot :smile:
     
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    Blueline New Member

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    Sometimes serial numbers can be useful. According to published lists, the range 147001 to 149891 would include 147508 , made in 1963 or 1964
     
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    Gareth Martin New Member

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    Hi, thanks for the help, sorry it took me a while but here are some photos.
    Is the control cavity behind the black cover on the back, would I take that off by unscrewing the small screws? Are the POT codes on something in there?
    Gibson SG 1.jpg Gibson SG 2.jpg Gibson SG 3.jpg Gibson SG 4.jpg Gibson SG 5.jpg here are some
     
  6. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    1963-1965 SG Standard because:

    1. Small guard
    2. Maestro Vibrola

    Cannot be earlier than 1963:

    1961-1962 had Sideways Vibrola.

    Cannot be later than 1966:

    1966 was transition year to large guard.

    The control cavity is on the backside.
    Remove the screws from the cover plate making note of original location of each screw so that they get replaced back in the original holes. If you plan to sell the guitar, some collectors are particular about this sort of thing.

    If the solder on the pots are original, the pot codes can indicate the earliest year the guitar was built.

    Pictured below is the control cavity of a 1970 SG Standard. The pot is indicated by the red arrow.

    Pot Code 1377010
    137 = CTS
    70 = Year
    10 = Week

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    Pictured below is a 1963 SG Special. The pot codes are on the side of the pots instead of the backside.

    Pot Code 1346326
    134 = Centralab
    63 = Year
    26 = Week

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  7. Gareth Martin

    Gareth Martin New Member

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    That's great, thanks for all the information. I'll carefully open the control cavity and post the pot codes.
     
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