Gibson USA SG 2019 Models?

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  1. flognoth

    flognoth Active Member

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    This was posted elsewhere, but it's possible these are the new USA 2019 SG models:

    SG '61 Reissue:
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib.../Press/Documents/SG-Standard-61-One-Sheet.pdf

    SG Standard:
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...ress/Documents/SG-Standard-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    SG Standard HP:
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...uments/SG-High-Performance-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    SG Tribute:
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...uments/SG-Standard-Tribute-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    And in the name of double cuts....

    Les Paul Jr. Tribute Double Cut:
    http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gibs.../Documents/LPJR-Tribute-DC-2019-One-Sheet.pdf
     
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  2. GrumpyOldDBA

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    Thanks yes look like 2019 models. Standard SG doesnt change much.

    The 2019 hp looks like it lost 57 pickups went from 2 push pull controls to 4 ...

    The early 2018 HP models like mine still are rosewood but all the later hps say richlite glad i have mine.

    Also color changes no more mohave fade etc.
     
  3. SG standard

    SG standard Well-Known Member

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    Interesting... looks believable, but several months ahead of the usual 'leak'.

    Seems like the special & faded have been combined into the Tribute. IMHO, missed an opportunity to give the '61 a Maestro, but that and the Standard look like they'd be good steady sellers.

    I wish they'd used a photo of the Blueberry fade on the HP, that colour swatch looks more like Ocean blue. Seems like the electrics on that are now more like the Les Paul Standard HP.

    Overall, no big surprises. Lots of cherry & black.
     
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  4. flognoth

    flognoth Active Member

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    I agree, the Tribute looks like a rebranded Special with the Faded's brown as a colour option.

    I missed they went with Richlite on the HP. I was too focused on the return to pickup rings.
     
  5. bwotw

    bwotw Well-Known Member

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    If true, that's several steps in the right direction. Cool to have both the batwing standard and the '61 reissue (the current small pickguard Standard looks pretty weird to me), as well as the barebones tribute (and the HP for those who want those).
     
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    bwotw Well-Known Member

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    By the way, where can we see the rest of the lineup?
     
  7. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Not a fan of fingerboard and headstock markings crossing over between models. Those features are what differentiate the four original models from each other.

    Juniors and Specials:
    Dots, no crowns on headstock

    Standards:
    Trapezoids, crown inlay on headstock

    Customs:
    Large blocks, split diamond on headstock


    Keep it simple.
     
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  8. GrumpyOldDBA

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    I did not see the pickup rings yikes. Hmmm so the "through the back of the guitar pickup height adjustment" was a 1 year variation? Interesting ...

    Yeah the 2018 "first couple of months" SG HP models were rosewood then they switched to richlite apparently at same time they ditched the robotuners.
     
  9. flognoth

    flognoth Active Member

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    I agree, I'd even go into a bit more details (of how things were in the mid 90's).


    Juniors and Specials:
    No fingerboard binding, dots, no crowns on headstock, gold logo

    Standards:
    Fingerboard binding, trapezoids, batwing pickguard, crown inlay on headstock, silver logo

    '61 Reissues:
    Finger board binding, trapezoids, angel wing pickguard, smaller headstock with crown inlay, silver logo

    Customs:
    Fingerboard binding, large blocks, angel wing pickguard, split diamond on headstock


    I think having too many variations is one of the problems they've had for some time now. That's why I kind of went back to the mid '90's lineup for what I think makes the most sense.

    Neck shapes, colours and specs from other models no longer in the lineup would be custom add on options or just smaller limited runs. I think it could help the company and the customer to have some standardization around the models.

    I think it's even worse with the Les Paul line up. The differences in the last several years between a Standard, Classic and Traditional seem to come down to colours, necks and un/covered pickups from what I can tell.
     
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  10. flognoth

    flognoth Active Member

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    Here's what i saw:

    SG Standard '61
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib.../Press/Documents/SG-Standard-61-One-Sheet.pdf


    SG Standard
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...ress/Documents/SG-Standard-2019-One-Sheet.pdf


    SG High Performance
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...uments/SG-High-Performance-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    SG Standard Tribute
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...uments/LP-High-Performance-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Les Paul Standard
    http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gibs...ress/Documents/LP-Standard-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Les Paul High Performance
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...uments/LP-High-Performance-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Les Paul Traditional
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...s/Documents/LP-Traditional-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Les Paul Classic
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...Press/Documents/LP-Classic-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Les Paul Studio
    http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gibs...2019/Press/Documents/2019-Les-Paul-Studio.pdf

    Les Paul Studio Tribute
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...ocuments/LP-Studio-Tribute-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Les Paul Jr. Tribute Double Cut
    http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gibs.../Documents/LPJR-Tribute-DC-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Explorer
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...9/Press/Documents/Explorer-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Explorer B-2
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...ress/Documents/Explorer-B2-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Flying V
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...9/Press/Documents/Flying-V-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Flying V B-2
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...ress/Documents/Flying-V-B2-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Firebird
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...9/Press/Documents/Firebird-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    Firebird Tribute
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...Documents/Firebird-Tribute-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    ES-355 Figured
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...s/Documents/ES-355-Figured-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    ES-275 Thinline
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib.../Documents/ES-275-Thinline-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    ES-335 Figured
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...s/Documents/ES-335-Figured-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    ES-335 Dot
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...Press/Documents/ES-335-DOT-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    ES-335 P-90
    http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gibs...Press/Documents/ES-335-P90-2019-One-Sheet.pdf

    ES-235 Ebony
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gib...019/Press/Documents/ES-235-2019-One-Sheet.pdf
     
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  11. Daniel.S

    Daniel.S Well-Known Member

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    Yeah would have been nice if the reissue came with a maestro. Would be awesome in ebony.
     
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    Looks like there's two significant changes to the Standard: a maple neck and a soft case. If these are accurate, of course.
     
  13. GrumpyOldDBA

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    Shoot missed those changes yeah maple versus mahogany ... is this just a minor manufacturer cost savings change? Along with bag versus case?

    I cant see how this will help sell more standards ...
     
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    I'm not sure why they would switch to a maple neck, really. I'm not educated on the cost differences between the production of either. I'm guessing Gibson will say it's because maple is stronger and will avoid the cost angle.

    The soft case, though...yeah. much cheaper lol
     
  15. 67King

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    Too bad they are ditching the 57's in so many things. Best pickup they make, for my tastes. Shoot, I've got some 490's (actually I think 490R/498T) I yanked from my Les Paul taking up space on a shelf. Also much prefer the smaller pickguard.

    Paul Reed Smith swears that the maple neck is more important than the bolt on aspect as far as sound quality. There have been some papers that support this, but energy transfer through that interface should be much, much better when they are glued, so I'm skeptical. However, the maple may make it sound a little more crisp/thin. My Les Paul has a maple neck, though, and I don't get any sort of loss of thickness from it, which also feeds my skepticism. But just a heads-up!
     
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    Maple is more easily sourced than mahogany.
     
  17. Daniel.S

    Daniel.S Well-Known Member

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    Hah tone wood
     
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    I’m liking this ‘19 SG lineup... hopefully this is a sign that Gibson is trying to go back to a simple lineup. Too many Les Paul models though.

    For the SGs, I’m liking:
    - batwing on the Standard
    - blue on the HP
    - 61R/61T in the ‘61 Reissue (I’ve always hated ‘57s)
    - Klusons on the Tribute

    I hope the 490T on the Standard is a typo and it sticks with the 498T.

    May look to pick up a Tribute to complement my Standard which I absolutely love.
     
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    Ahh yes, another difference on the standard: the batwing is back. I was too busy reading the text to look at the pic lol.
     
  20. SG standard

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    Interesting that they're also sticking with the old convention of Batwing + Rounded neck profile & Angel wing + Slim taper neck. Funny how Gibson can be so fixated on some traditions, and not others. :)

    BTW, For me it was the other way around - I was so fixated on the photo I spotted the batwing but didn't read the text closely enough to notice the revised neck profile. Funny how folks differ - I think between us we've got it covered! :)
     

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