Got a comissioned build coming up-EB3 Bass

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  1. SG Lou

    SG Lou Moderator Staff Member

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    Although I'm stoked I got one problem. Did a MASSIVE SEARCH and couldn't find anything in the form of a pdf, dwg, anything. I got a good friend who has a couple and i'm sure he'd loan me one so I can tear it down and take measurements and make patterns etc, etc. Would be much nicer if I could find a pdf though ! [​IMG]
     
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    SG Lou Moderator Staff Member

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    Problem solved. [​IMG]
    I got an old high school friend who has several EB3's of various years. Talked to him tonight and he is gracefully allowing me to borrow one so I can take it apart and make all of the measurements, drawings, etc, etc I need.
    I got the EB3 for as long as I need it ! [​IMG]
     
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    dbb Well-Known Member

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    Hey, these were cool basses and one of the popular alternatives to Fender back in the 60's-70's.
     
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    Jack Bruce used to play one in Cream, I think it was regarded as a Jazz Bass substitute for faster playing or for people who found 34" scales too big for their hands.
    I've not seen one for years!
     
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    dbb Well-Known Member

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    I just saw (and played) one a month ago - one local female bassist owns a near-mint 60's short scale model. They did make a rarer long scale EB.
     
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    javamagic Well-Known Member

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    Yes, a Norlin-era model and pig-ugly with the long neck and slotted headstock! What were they thinking? No wonder they're rare - no-one wanted them! :thumb:
     
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    Hmmm,

    Quite like a slotted headstock myself....."
     
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    Tony M Well-Known Member

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    I think the model # was EB-3L?
     
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    dbb Well-Known Member

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    Yup.....[​IMG]

    1972 Gibson EB3L Bass Guitar

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    sometimes listed as EB3L

    Some of the fun of Gibson, Epi hollow-body, Hofner and Hofner clone basses IS the short scale; Fender P and J basses, Rick 4001/3's, etc. are long scale.
     
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    javamagic Well-Known Member

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    Yes, so do I. On a Martin 0-45. Just not on a solid-body bass. :ohno:
     
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    dbb Well-Known Member

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    I've played EB3 regulars and a few L's - with the regular and slotted headstock- and never noticed a difference.

    Sorry, I call 'em as I see 'em. However I'm not sure either one looks great.

    Still, it's a *Gibson* bass, so anything goes. Other than the late great Felix Pappalardi, who ever made that Gibson violin bass sound good?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    Played an EB-0 that I worked on years ago . Sweet sounding bass !
     
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    My first real bass (I don't count the "cheap" Japanese bass that I couldn't get Mississippi Queen right on and broke over the curb in frustration) was a lovely EB-3. Wish I had it back. Well that and my '67 SG Les Paul and.....
     
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    dbb Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, get in line for the "wish I had it back" thing....although really I'm very happy with all my current guitars and really don't need any more.
     
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    OK So, the customer wants an early 60's Jack Bruce EB3 Bass. My bud only has early 70's EB3's so I'm back to square one. If anyone can supply me with Info I'd greatly appreciate it. !

    The measurements I’m looking for are from an early 60’s ( 61 thru 65 )
    EB3 Bass
    Measurements can be in either Imperial or metric as I use both.

    Neck Measurements
    Overall Length of neck from tip of headstock to end of tenon –
    Neck Width at nut –
    Neck Width at end of Fingerboard –
    Tenon Thickness minus fingerboard- 25.4mm ?
    Fingerboard thickness - 6.35mm ?
    Headstock Thickness just past nut-
    Headstock Thickness at end of headstock –
    (Gibson had tapered the headstocks in the early days)
    Headstock width and length –
    Neck thickness ( including Fingerboard)
    At 1st Fret –
    At 12th Fret-
    Neck Heel begins at approximately what fret ?

    Body:
    Length-
    Width-
    Thickness-
    Spacing between pickup cavities -

    Again, Any and all help would be Great !
    Thanks Again Gents !
     
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    javamagic Well-Known Member

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    Brew's yer man. Send him a PM and ask him for the neck dimensions of his EB-2. Alright, I know it's not a solid-body but the neck is absolutely gorgeous and a delight to play. It should be pretty much the same as an EB-3 of similar vintage. Obviously you'll still need some dimensions but it should be possible to calculate some of them from online pics, existing knowledge of SGs, etc. After all the bodies are identical - at least as far as I can see.

    As for the tapered headstock, I thought Gibson abandoned them in the late '40s/early 50s.:dunno:

    Good luck Lou.:thumb:
     
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    Hmmm, I know they still did it in 59 and 60. My 63 Jr's headstock is tapered also :thumb:
     
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    SG Lou Moderator Staff Member

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    Jack Bruce played either a 64 or a 65 in the Creem days. That's what my customer wants :thumb:
     
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    I love that bass Jack Bruce used to use in the cream days. If you want to do a trial build to work out the bugs before the commissioned build... I'd be more than happy to buy it off you. I don't even care if it is finished or has any electronics, etc... I'd love to have an EB3 bass and could never afford one.

    Also, I saw an old EB3 at a local guitar shop so will stop by to see if they happen to still have it. Maybe I good get some of those measurements for you.
     
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    Maybe you could contact this guy on youtube.

    He may still have this EB3, and it may not be different
    to the '64.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFKjB6M_I4Y&list=LP80rk6fLTodE&index=2&feature=plcp]Gibson EB-3 Bass - 1962 - YouTube[/ame]

    This is some meagre info,

    '64 EB3
    This ultra thin (1 3/8 inches) SG-style bass guitar weighs just 8.10 lbs. and has a nice, fat nut width of slightly over 1 11/16 inches and a nice, short scale length of 30 1/2 inches. Solid mahogany body with highly contoured edges, one-piece mahogany neck, and unbound rosewood fretboard with 20 frets and inlaid pearl dot position markers. One large metal-cover four-polepiece humbucking pickup in the neck position with an output of 12.22k and one smaller metal-cover four-polepiece mini-humbucker pickup with black plastic surround in the bridge position with an output of 7.53k.
     

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