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  1. Wub

    Wub New Member

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    F163FEB7-8913-49F1-BE5C-26AF24464C7D.jpeg Hi there,

    I'll start by saying I know absolutely nothing about Gibson. I usually stick with my Fenders but this came up and I wasn't sure if it even was a legitimate SG. Does anyone have an idea of what this is?

    I had trouble adding pictures to this thread so I uploaded them to flickr but it won't let me post a link. :confused:
     
  2. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Photos of the back would be helpful.
    Does it have a set neck or bolt on neck?

    Perhaps someone hacked up an old SG Junior.
    Tried to convert it to an SG Special with Humbuckers.
    Added the switch and two extra pots.
    Was sanded heavily and refinished.
     
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    whatever it is, it's been heavily modded.
    something to stay away from, especially if you know nothing about Gibsons.

    If you want a fine Gibson, there are plenty of them for sale that are no more
    and no less than they seem. Gibson guitars have a good reputation in spite
    of Gibson bashers which you can find on just about any forum.
    If you want a fine Gibson SG, get an SG Standard, or an SG special.
    It's hard to go wrong with one of those.

    Buy a used recent one, and get it set up properly, that's my recommendation.
    Buy from a reputable source, because there are too many fakes out there,
    like traps for the unwary.

    Write down the Serial number from the back of the headstock. Gibson
    maintains a service which will tell you when your guitar was made, and
    what it had for original equipment. The guitar shown looks like an SGJ
    that's been modified. The pickups and the pick guard are non standard,
    so who knows what it used to be. Or if it's even genuine.

    I say Run, don't walk
    away from odd deals on weird guitars offered by strangers.

    And it's always: Play it before you buy it. Learn something about Gibson
    guitars so you don't fall for some POS that's offered by gawd knows who.
    Or take another player with you when you go looking for a Gibson, someone
    who does know a few things.

    Or buy one from someone you know, someone that you've heard them play it.
    And someone who will let you play it through your own amp before you lay
    your money down. Play it through the amp you intend to use... that's how
    you know if it adds to your music or not.
     
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  4. njpaulc

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    Might be a modded Melody Maker from the late '60's. Need a clearer shot of the head. How much were they asking?
     
  5. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Not an SGJ because this one has 22 frets.
    SGJ has 24 frets.

    60's SG Melody Makers had the narrow headstock with no wings attached.

    The unbound neck with wraparound bridge parallel to pickup leads me to believe that is was a late 60's Junior at one time. The spacing of the 12th fret dots is also typical of 1960's SG Juniors.

    Something about the headstock logo looks incorrect to be from that era.
     
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    the wrap tail piece without a bunch of hole plugs etc. also points to an old jr.
     
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    I'd say Melody maker, looks like it had a short Vibrola, also it has 4 pots. (wings from 69-70)
     
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    How much is it anyway? I have to say I've really started liking the more rounded beveling.
     
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    Buggered up "The SG" from 69-70 maybe? If it plays ok I might offer $300 and see if they bite.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    "The SG" was from 79-80.
    They had TOM bridge with tail piece.

    Yes on headstock wings from 69-70 for Melody Maker, but where's the hole left behind from a slider selector switch near the horn if it were a Melody Maker?

    https://solidguitar.fandom.com/wiki/Melody_Maker
     
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    Good point but unclear from that pic whether it has been there or not, I'd say.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    They could have done a good job plugging all the holes and applying the finish really thick to hide any evidence.

    We do need better photos.
     
  13. njpaulc

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    Really, with that one picture we're like "three blind men discribing an elephant".
     

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