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  1. tomwilson74

    tomwilson74 New Member

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    Looking at an Epiphone SG 1966 Pro or an Epiphone Les Paul Standard or Pro. The SG is about $175 cheaper. Any opinions or experience with the Les Paul models?
     
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    plankton Well-Known Member

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    I know what I would prefer.

    Have you played them both?

    They're both good guitars, but with a different feel and sound.
     
  3. tomwilson74

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    I have played the SG. My nephew has a G400.
     
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    GrumpyOldDBA Well-Known Member

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    Buy all three!
     
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    I plan on getting a blueburst LP Plustop, in either quilt or flame, probably flame. I haven't played one yet, but I at least can wholeheartedly recommend the '66 G-400. I absolutely love mine, the stock pups are bright and PAFy, like ZZ Topish, plenty of clarity, and are the first non-name brand pups I've ever NOT wanted to swap out for something else. Frets are all set right, and on the side I can only feel 3 of the 22 frets just a little bit, but only if I'm trying to feel the frets. Stays in tune well, tho I did have to set it up slightly once I got it. Truss rod adjustment, slight lowering of the action, then slight lowering of the pups to maintain a 4/64th" and 5 for the bridge pup, and 5 and 6 for the neck. All basic standard stuff you get used to.

    Just for a little background, I've played guitar for over 2 decades, currently own 9 guitars (4 of which I plan to sell), and have owned 5 others over the years. The best one I have is a PRS McCarty I got about 5 months ago from a guy, all American made, and altho I'm no pro and have never gigged, I swear the tone I get from the Epi SG is right on par with the McCarty, maybe not in sound because they're very different guitars, but definitely in quality. The other expensive guitar I have is a Korean made Esoterik DR1 with some crazy walnut multilayered neckthru construction, quality on par with the McCarty, just not made in the USA. Those 3 guitars are easily my favorites.
     
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    tomwilson74 New Member

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    As a woodworker, I just had to order the Epiphone Les paul plus top in Mojave burst. The wood detail sold me over the SG 1966 Pro. I’m sure they’re both great guitars.
     
  7. Col Mustard

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    uh... this is an SG forum. So:

    GET THE SG!

    Ask a bunch of Les Paul guys, you know what they'll say.

    All laughs aside, when it comes to value, the SG beats the Les Paul any
    day. SG owners lay out less cash in general, and get the same tone.

    Les Paul guys might refute this, but it's still true. The tones are similar.
    So if it's about the music: GET THE SG.
    If you save $175 getting the SG, then you can spend that money on
    professional setup and a hard shell case. These will enhance your SG
    experience all out of proportion to any other mods.

    If it's about other issues then GET BOTH...
    If you made this a poll, that's probably the answer that would win.
    GET BOTH.

    I own two Epiphones, neither one is an SG or a Les Paul. I love them both
    for different reasons. They are both excellent, they sound different, they both feel
    fast and comfortable. They both give great tone, their finish is hard, durable and
    practical (Polyurethane, no lacquer). They both have finely done binding...
    no nibs/no problem. That's an Epi Wilshire replica at left, and an Epiphone ES-339
    P-90 pro on the right. The Wilshire weighs about seven pounds, the ES-339
    weighs about eight pounds. They both balance perfectly. Their necks are completely
    different from one another, which is unimportant. I'm glad I have both.
    I got really good prices on both of them, the kind you don't pass up, you pounce.
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    Many of us here on ETSG have other guitars we play. We have Strat fanciers on this forum, knuckle dragging Telecaster nuts, we have shredders who prefer the Monkey Grip kind, or the Dime kind, and we have Les Paul guys.

    My real suggestion is to go where they sell them, and play as many
    as they'll let you.
    Buy the one that comes alive in your hands. It might be
    the SG and it might be the Les Paul. The ES-339 caught me by surprise
    that way. I was actually going to pay more for an Epi Casino Coupe.
    But I played the ES-339 and she won my heart. No regrets if you play it first.

    The SG is lighter than the Les Paul, and has better upper fret access, if you
    play a lot up on the dusty end. Epiphone Les Pauls have awesome sustain
    and are lovely to look at. Which is better for you? You have to play them
    side by side through your own signal chain (or one like it) then you know.
     
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    Keep us posted, mayn.
     
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    This is the best advice there is, and what I was trying to express (poorly) in my post above.

    No one is going to be able to tell you what guitar is best for you.

    But I say get the SG!
     
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    I bought the Les Paul but an SG will probably be added by this fall.
     
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    UPS says it will be delivered on Thursday...
     
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    LOL, you're definitely one of us!

    I completely missed the post above when you said you'd ordered the LP. Make sure you post pics when you get it, sounds like a good looking guitar.
     
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    tomwilson74 New Member

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    It’s here!
    It won’t let me upload a picture. Says the file is too large.
     
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    If you are on a Mac, you can easily resize the image in Preview / Photos.. If you are in Windows, you can open it, then use the Snipping tool to take a screenshot and then resize that and save it.
     
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    Finally fixed it!
     

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    Nice. Is that a standard Plus Top Pro with Desert Burst?
     
  19. tomwilson74

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    Yep. I’ve seen it called “Mojave” burst also. That’s cool, I was stationed in the Mojave Desert in the late 90’s.
     
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    I thought the Desert Burst was like this:
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