Help me identify this SG?

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  1. skelt101

    skelt101 Active Member

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    My guess is the guitar was once done up as a 12 string, Rickenbacker-style.
     
  2. Von Trapp

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    Ah, yes, I see now that it was mentioned in the 1st post. Sorry. Well it seems the previous owner took a quite pragmatic view to workmanship but hey, it seems to be a fully functional guitar, so why not. Beats me why he removed the 23-24 fret but perhaps he didn't have the cash for a custom guard. Interesting thread, thanks for showing!
     
  3. NY-Pete

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    That’s one of the weirdest mods made to this poor thing. I was told that someone tried to make it 12 string at one point and those holes on the side were where the extra tuners were mounted. The guy I bought it from said he filled the side holes...
     
  4. Von Trapp

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    Yes, what an idea. haha. Have to admire the Just do it attitude though.
     
  5. skelt101

    skelt101 Active Member

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    “Remove 23rd and 24th frets vs custom pickguard? Easy choice!”
     
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  6. Von Trapp

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    Indeed an interesting choice if nothing else..
     
  7. DJGranite

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    Here is a pic of a 97 SG-X.
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    They certainly were willing to make some changes to say the least.
    The logo was originally silkscreened, carved out and filled with paint.
    Can still see the route for the single pickup, plus the 2 chiseled ones.
    I'm guessing it was set up like a Custom with 3 pickups and a small "61" style pickguard, note the 2 holes just below the bridge and neck pickup routes.
    Adding/subtracting and moving controls...
    Removing parts of the fretboard and a couple frets, probably so they could fit 3 pickups. Will 3 pickups fit with 24 frets on an SG-X?
    I'm sure the inlay was just because, well inlay generally plain old looks good.
    I wonder what tuners they used for the 12 string conversion.
    I wonder if you could get a dowel to fit into those slots drilled into the headstock, probably so. How many times do you think the nut has been changed?


    I wonder how it looked....
    3 pickup, small pickguard, 12 SG....
    Sounds kind of cool doesn't it?
    Would have liked to have seen it.

    Well, that's my best guess.
     
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  8. Von Trapp

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    Well it certainly can't have looked worse than the original then. My theory is he went for a large pickguard because he didn't have a router and couldn't route the two extra cavities clean and since he had to do that he sacrificed the extra frets. Good way to cover the shoddy workmanship. Don't think he would have had to remove the frets had he had a router because 3 pickups would fit in behind them no probs.

    Edit: I see you got that pic off ebay, they want 1100 for it, HOLY SH!T!
     
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  9. DJGranite

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    Well, 3 Hb pickups, then the little cover that said Les Paul on a 61.....
    There are 2 sets of holes at the end of the neck, 1 set for the little cover(can't think of what it's called) and 1 set for the batwing guard that's on it.
    At least that's my theory.
     
  10. Von Trapp

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    We shall never know...
     
  11. SG John

    SG John Well-Known Member

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    Have to look up the Shaw numbers after I get home this weekend. The ink stamp on the second photo looks like it might be a Shaw. As for the potting, looks like some one did it at home by dunking the pickup in a pot of paraffin. That is one weird looking SG. The truss nod nut does not look good, as it looks like the wood under there was butchered. Should have a half round steel insert under the nut.
     
  12. Steve D

    Steve D Well-Known Member

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    Advertise it on Reverb. "Rare 80s SG, custom color, all original!" :smile:
     
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  13. NY-Pete

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    Making a little progress. Started to strip off the paint to reveal the original color. I’m pretty sure the white is a polyurethane; which just bubbles under the heat gun. I have to be more careful as I get down to the original nitrocellulose lacquer... it gets a little more explosive around heat. 6E6CDD48-15C3-43B3-916D-21D6915091D4.jpeg
    Also removed the old headstock overlay. Anyone want it? Slightly used, but customized through weight reduction to avoid neck dive! 41786413-D7C4-45EF-86F7-1D481760B4F3.jpeg

    Filled in all of the holes in the headstock with dowel rods and a mixture of sawdust and glue. You can see that whoever routed out the Gibson logo went into the wood beneath the inlay. Filled that in too. Needs a little more sanding. 32EE99DA-74B7-4916-9CDB-817A57BBF594.jpeg

    I’ll post more picks of the restoration progress if you guys are interested.
     
  14. everdying

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    are u going to try and restore it back to a single hum?
    maybe put a flame maple veneer over it, since that would be much easier than filling in all the mess...would look better too.
     
  15. Von Trapp

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    Hahaha!



    I'd paint it like this in a heartbeat! http://www.everythingsg.com/threads/e-series-bully.36442/page-2#post-535803

    and mos def keep the 3 pickups, but then again I have a bias towards that and tend to put a 3rd in most my guitars, not that I use it because their pretty useless tone wise. I just ace frehley it and stick a non wired pup in there because I like the look...
     
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  16. NY-Pete

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    I’m thinking of routing the space for the center humbucker a little larger to clean it up, then gluing in a piece of wood to so it’s gone completely. My first guitar build was this three humbucker SG clone.
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  17. NY-Pete

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    I’ve been working on getting this old paint off and came to the back of the headstock. With a little heat and a lot of patience, I was able to clean out the Serial and USA stamps. Still a long way to go... 4F936DCD-791E-45B0-9673-CDF637C09434.jpeg
     
  19. Von Trapp

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    Nice! Try stripper perhaps or you'll die scraping...
     
  20. skydog6653

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    That's an organ donor. No sense throwing good money after bad. Find a ‘clean’ husk and perform the transplant.
     

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