How does one determine the model # of Tokai SG?

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  1. skydog6653

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    Mine is a 2003 MIJ, but no designation anywhere.
     

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    20+ views and nobody knows?
     
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    I bought a second hand Tokai, one of their Chinese models, and wanted to find out which model it was and the year of manufacture. I found the Tokai Registry and Forum, but they weren't particularly helpful. Then I contacted the Australian distributor and they told me that the serial number could not be used to identify and of those things.

    You might try the Registry, which links to their forum, they seemed to be more interested in older MIJ Tokais.

    http://www.tokairegistry.com/
     
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    Why does it matter? It's not an SG. It's a Chinese or Japanese knockoff of a Gibson SG. I'd call it a Tokai SG Standard knockoff.
     
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    What does the headstock look like?

    Knockoff is harsh... Its still an SG based on body shape if I'm not mistaken. Even if its not from Gibson or a subsidiary I still think its the design that makes it LP, SG, Strat, Tele, etc.

    We cant see the headstock in these pictures but the body and neck look pretty nice based on that one picture. I would inspect the neck and fretboard further if I could. I'm sure it doesnt sound terrible.
     
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    Good constructive answer. I'm sure it's exactly what the OP was looking for.

    Beautiful SG skydog6653. I too would like to see the whole guitar. Sorry I can't help with your question though.
     
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    Sorry. Wasn't helpful, was it? From what I have read, the Tokai are extremely well made "Gibson like" guitars. Possibly even better made than Gibby's.
     
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    Is that sarcasm?
     
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    :facepalm: Oops ... why didn't I see that ?
     
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    Just the mixed emotions I have about the thousands of American products that have moved off shore. When you can get an SG like copy that is better made and cheaper than a Gibby, what does it say about how we are doing in this country?
     
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    I get what you mean. I just thought we werent supposed to show a bit of concern for whats American made or otherwise, as if it were just some blind patriotism.
     
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    I know. I've had several Gibson SG's and the Tokai smokes them.
     
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    It seems they change their number designations often and there's no real resource out there for them. I would say yours is definitely a higher end model based on the beveling.

    Maybe the guys at MyLesPaul could help, they know a lot about Tokai LPs, anyway.
     
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    After doing a quick search online, I found that sometimes the model number on these are located under the bridge pickup. The model numbers often reflect the original selling price in Japanese Yen.

    SG-92 = ¥ 92,000
    SG-118 = ¥ 118,000

    Gibson did the same thing with the ES Models.

    ES-150 = $150
    ES-175 = $175
    ES-335 = $335
     
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    No such luck!
     
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    Are those Gibson pickups?

    One difference between the current models of MIJ Tokai SGs is the construction of the body. The Vintage series (SG-118) has a two piece body and the Premium (SG-210) is one piece.

    It looks like one piece in the photo you posted. Maybe that helps?
     
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    Gibson '57 Classic pickups, 2 piece (nearly invisible) center seam body
     

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