How to Block off a Repro Sideways Vibrola

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  1. Logan

    Logan Well-Known Member

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    So, when I got my 2015 SGS3, I knew I had to block off the vibrola eventually. I got the guitar, and it was the best playing/sounding guitar I've ever owned. Now, I did some research and experimenting, and I came up with this way to block the sideways vibrola off.
    First thing you want to do is start by taking the strings off the guitar.

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    Next, is pretty easy, you take off the cover. This is how you're going to do the work.

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    Okay, so what do you do next? I contemplated this for quite a bit of time, and one day I decided to take the springs out of the guitar.

    With the springs:
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    Without the springs:
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    Now, this is how I played the guitar for quite a while. It improved the tuning stability quite significantly. It essentially turns the vibrola into a trapeze tailpiece, except it looks cooler.

    But, I wasn't quite happy with the break angle. Not at all. So, I tried to figure out a way to increase the break angle. And I saw a guy on reverb who had a brilliant idea for how to increase it; put a washer under the screw and bearing. To do that, you need to take off the screw and bearing.

    There is the screw you want to take off:
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    Here is what it should look like with it off:
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    Then, you take the washer and screw with bearing, and put them together.

    Here is the washer and screw with bearing:
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    And here are them together:
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    Then, you screw that back into the middle piece:
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    Next, before you put the cover back on, trust me, you're gonna want to restring. An easy way to do this is going through the triangle, like this:
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    Next, you can adjust the height like a stop tail. What? You heard me right. Just by adjusting the small hex screw you just reinstalled with the washer, you can adjust the break angle. What you adjust is right here:
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    And lastly, you reinstall the cover. If you ever want to bring it back to stock (not that you'd want to), just do all the steps in reverse. Or, if you want to adjust the height of it, just take the cover off and re-adjust the screw. All in all, I'm pretty happy with the way this turned out. Now, I couldn't leave without a finished picture of the guitar :naughty:
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    Anyway, thanks for reading, and I hope this helps anyone who is having tuning issues with this trem, as this essentially converts it to a stoptail while keeping the unique look.
     
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    Why would you want to increase the break angle?
     
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    I installed an ABR-1, and they need to have a certain amount of tension otherwise the saddles will raddle.
     
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    Wasn't aware they needed to be tightened down.
     
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    Logan Well-Known Member

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    It depends on the ABR-1. I had to reverse the saddles to get intonation correct so now they are looser than they should be.
     
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    Why did you install an inherently defective bridge?
     
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    The sideways vibrola is stock on that SG model.
     
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    I'm talking about the ABR-1 noisemaker that he can't intonate without swapping saddles around. As noted elsewhere, ad nauseum, Nashvilles displaced ABR-1s for a couple of good reasons: no rattle trap and accurate intonation adjustment.
     
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    Nice work Logan!

    You too biddlin¿¿
     
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    I guess most people install ABRs because of the looks. And most of the time intonation is not a problem. At least in my limited experience. But you are right, of course. Gibson went to the Nashvilles (or harmonicas) for a reason.
     
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    Looks, and the way the posts are drilled. The conversion set I used, the studs go direct into the wood, which increased the resonance of the guitar and sustain quite noticably. Why do you like inferior tuners with push in buttons? Same reason :rofl:

    Frankly, it's like sardine cans.
     
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    Ah, the insipid vanity of youth.
    I've no idea what you're blathering about and neither do you.
     
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    Logan Well-Known Member

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    Hipshots.
     
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    Oh, those luridly garish looking tuners ? And "The Lady," one can only hope he doesn't buy jewelry for his missus....
     
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    And why did you have to install yourself into an otherwise helpful thread? :facepalm:
     
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    Is that Nancy Wilson in your sig line?

    She has really let herself go....
     
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    Nah, that's a San Francisco bag lady.
     
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    Logan Well-Known Member

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    His wife? I'd hope so. Oh, you're talking about his guitars? Wonder where you get that idea from :rofl:

    This thread has devolved enough. God save us all.
     
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    I haven’t spent enough time with mine yet, but it seems pretty stable.
    First thing I do with all my guitars is a set up to include nut and saddle filing. I rarely have a tuning problem and by rarely I mean never. I have 7-38’s on it and a very shallow break angle.

    I still don’t like the middle pickup bein’ all up in my way....

    But damn it’s beautiful....

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    I also made a thread for the modifications I did, and it's here if anyone is interested.
     

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