How would you wire this guitar?

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  1. assquatch20

    assquatch20 Member

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    Hey I've got this SG I'm finally getting around to fixing up. It needs a refret and all its hardware, but I'm unsure about how to wire it up. I'd like to have options.

    It's an old SGII so it's something like this: [​IMG]

    With a control plate something like this: [​IMG]

    Pretty sure those pickups were actually single coils but they're the size of mini humbuckers. I'm aiming to use Firebird pickups of some make in there, as opposed to a regular mini hum.

    I'm having a new control plate made and I was thinking to make a spare blank one in case I wanna get wild but in either case I don't think I can fit much more than what it has under that control plate. My idea was maybe concentric pots so I'd have a volume and tone for each pickup, assuming they'll fit the depth of the control cavity. Then maybe a couple mini three way toggle switches for selecting which coil in the pickup, or both, but that would require 4 wire pickups and I think most of my Firebird pickup options are 2 conductor. Maybe keep those 2 way slide switches instead or go with 3 way sliders... The possibilities are kinda confusing. I've even considered thumbwheel type pots to go under the pickguard to get more tonal options.

    Anyhow the idea of individual volume and tone control for each pickup is nice, as is the idea of phase and series/parallel switching, but assuming you're limited to a control cavity that big and two 2 conductor pickups, what would you do? Maybe just use the 2 way sliders and the holes you're given or maybe go with something custom. I'm just looking for ideas.

    Heck I'd be curious to know what you'd do with 4 wire humbuckers in there as well. Any input is appreciated.
     
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    Firebird pickups are a great idea, they have a great sound that would match an SG well. I like the idea of concentric pots as well, one of the things I like about Gibsons is the volume and tone for each pickup. Then I'd just use a standard 3 way toggle and stop right there.
     
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    This. If you wanted to get creative, a Free-Way switch could cover that (providing it fits, of course...).
    https://www.stewmac.com/Pickups_and...nd_Parts/Switches/Free-Way_Pickup_Switch.html
    https://www.stewmac.com/Pickups_and...and_Parts/Switches/Free-Way_Ultra_Switch.html
     
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    Alright so I've found a builder that'll make FB pickups with AlNiCo 2, 3, or 5, and they do them with 4 conductor wiring. The 4 conductor thing opens up more crazy options. The ability to split coils and go parallel/series or in/out of phase with any coil combination would be nice. As well I think it might be possible to fit 4 pots with a standard toggle and maybe more, just given how the SG Deluxe of the day was laid out. Still overwhelming options but your input has been helpful.

    Any ideas which magnets I should go with? I was originally thinking A5 in the bridge and A2 in the neck but A3 could be nice. I'm in a rock band so A5's might be the safe bet, but I like eating my cake and having it too, so a pickup that cleans up well is also desirable.
     
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    Tony M Well-Known Member

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    I would use 2 concentric pots and a 3 way toggle.
     
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    I've got the pickups ordered. Went with A5 mags. I'm getting a spare blank plate where I think I could fit four pots and a jack and toggle switch. But I think I'll just use the stock plate and try to fit a 3 way toggle on it. That means 2 concentric pots, pickup selector, jack, then the two slide switches for phase and series/parallel between pickups. Coil splitting and such might be fun on the workbench but those options are overwhelming and maybe unnecessary.
     
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    Sounds like you have the electrics under control. Meanwhile maybe get rid of those huge bridge adjuster screws and put in some buried Allen-headed set screws.
     
  8. assquatch20

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    Not my guitar, not my bridge. Mine has one that looks like a Badass, but one of the screw holes has messed up threads so it's getting replaced with one of these:

    [​IMG]
     
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