Identification serial is 172958

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  1. Rowdy69

    Rowdy69 New Member

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    Hi all particularly Agualung . Im in Adelaide Australia and i can buy this for around $500 . Its in ok condition but is it a 74 SG special ? Thanks
     

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    Pickguard looks like it might of been replaced. We probably need better pictures, more details.
     
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    Anyone....?
     
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    As far as I know that looks about right for that time period (I may be wrong), theres probably more suitable people to tell you about that than me.

    $500? That seems a little dodgy. This guitar would be worth at least a grand if not more (I'm assuming we're talking AUD)
    If it turns out to be authentic, you've found your self a GREAT deal
     
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    Can you get a shot of the back neck right below the E tuners?
     
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    She doesnt know the value of it but if its genuine, i do . The only pic she has sent that you ask for is this one, for now . I dont think it has the bump , not sure the tech term on the neck from what i can see
     

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    Volute.
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    Gibson changed their neck construction around 1969, moving from traditional one-piece mahogany to a stronger 3-piece laminate and then to 3-piece maple about 1974 for even greater strength. From roughly 1969, they added a so-called “volute” or carved heel to the back of the neck just below the point where it becomes the headstock – a sort of triangular thickening that theoretically reinforces a notorious weak spot. The volute lasted until about 1981.
     
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    Yeah I've read that . Thanks for the info . Guess I'll have to go and look in person
     
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    Actually, looking at that pic closely id say it does have the volute...... Wasn't this a transitional neck stage in 74??
     
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    That looks to me to be 72-74 Norlin product. Definitely has the volute. My old rhythm player has it's twin. Those are becoming rarer over here and fetch upwards of $2k in good condition, on the US West Coast. I like the mini-buckers in these, though when they were new, many players didn't. Some of this era seem to have a very shallow neck angle.
    BTW, the volute doesn't really make the neck stronger and on some examples makes the guitar even more neck heavy. These are more challenging to repair, as well.
     
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    Thanks Biddlin . I'll let you all know if i snag the deal . I'll remove the pots if i do and check dates. Thanks everyone for your time . Ray
     
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    You may wanna pay a fair price to the lady - you're still gonna get it very cheap after all, no need to rape her!
     
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    Ive told her how to google the guitar with the same details ive used here Bettyboo .Thanks for your judgement
     
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    Nice find, and at a price that's almost to good to be true. Hope you get it and rock with it. We could always use more porn, too... :cheers:
     
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    Weird synchronicity: My neighbor came over last night with a 72-73 SG Walnut Special. He says it has been played by Mexican rocker Javier Batiz. Definitely set up for someone who plays 7 nights a week with a Sunday matinee. I didn't weigh it, but it felt very light. The mini-hums are sweet. He turned down a $1500 offer which is good since I don't have $1500.
     
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    Here's what i told the seller
    Hi Genie . I have researched your guitar for you and in mint condition , its worth $2000 plus . If im right its a 1972/74 Gibson SG special . I probably cant afford to buy it but you now know what its value is
    Here was her reply
    Hi Ray, I'm so sorry I haven't got back to you. It's been hectic here and the guitar was at my mums. Thank you so much for researching it. I'll double check all the details and see if I have any history. It's pretty well loved so we're not going to be asking for much though. I'll keep you updated just in case. Hope you're enjoying the stand! Glad you bought it. Thanks again.


    Looks like there are still lovely people in the world who respect honesty . WOO HOOO for me lol
     
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    It is a little painful to stand up on your hind legs sometimes, but always worth it in the long run. Bravo brother!!!
     
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    Great Norlin era SG Special. I have a 73. The only differences are I have the harmonica bridge and the tuners have metal buttons not white plastic. It's become my main guitar...I had it refretted. It made a world of difference. Can't tell the condition of the frets from your pics. I also changed out the pots....the taper on the volume and tone were not what I needed. To accurately date your SG, pull the control cover and check the pots. They give the week and year of manufacture on the serial number stamped on the back of the pots. Great story, too.
     
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