Identifying pickups in 2011 SG Standard

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  1. BenTobith

    BenTobith Member

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    Hi all,

    I have a 2011 SG Standard in Natural Burst finish. I was thinking this had 498T and 490R pickups.

    However, I noticed both pickups on the backside just have "Gibson USA" and the letter "T" on them. I thought it odd that both had a "T" if that was in any sense an indicator of a Treble or Bridge pickup.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Welcome to ETSG...

    Unless the guitar's been modded, the
    stock p'ups for the 2011 SG Standard were the same
    as for the Les Paul Standard:

    490R and 498T:
    Gibson 490R:498T bottom.jpeg
    The upper photo is more recent, the lower photo is
    from the nineties according to what I saw on the web.
    Gibson 490R:498T pickups bottom.jpg
    I believe the T is only to let the factory workers know which side is which. Gibson made other p'ups in the past called T-tops, which had similar markings on top of the bobbins.
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Welcome, stock humbuckers are 490R and 498T.

    Show us your SG Natural Burst.
     
  4. BenTobith

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    Thanks, that makes sense. I definitely was under the impression they were 490R/498T, and they look just like the ones in your first picture.
     
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    It's currently apart, as I'm replacing the old pickguard with a new one and upsizing to 12s but here's a somewhat recent picture:

    [​IMG]
     
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    On a somewhat related note: Anyone have tips or secrets when it comes to getting the pickups back on to a pickguard? The freakin' springs, dude. Those freakin' springs. :rofl:
     
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    If you have this in your toolbox that' s perfect

    Temp 4081.jpg
     
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    Ah, that's a great idea. I can always get them back in place, but not without a lot of pain and/or frustration!
     
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    Gibson PU springs are insanely long. Aaaargh!
     
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    Yup ya gotta break out the roach clips they work quite well for the springs
     
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    If you'd like an official "luthier's tool" rather than a roach clip
    here's the "humbucker helper" from Stewmac:

    https://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Too...lectronics_and_Pickups/Humbucker_Helpers.html

    I have a set of these, and they work great.

    On a side note, I think it's interesting that the Gibson 490R and 498T pickups
    are stamped with the same bogus Patent Number as my 2012 Gibson Mini hums.
    Pickup labels close@100.jpg
    This must be a very long running Gibson joke. ...that they never get tired of.
    The patent number shown above, and the same one on your full size humbuckers is
    definitely a bogus patent number. This is the same number stamped on the bottoms of
    Gibson's famous "Patent Number" pickups from the sixties and early '70s, which are almost
    as prized as their "PAF" p'ups (which means "Patent Applied For").

    I believe that the bogus patent number was a bit of Gibson mis-direction, because
    that number was given for the odd tail piece that was actually invented by Les Paul.
    (
    you can google it).
    So if an industrial spy requisitioned the patent papers, intending to make an alternate
    version of Gibson's famous pickup, for the purpose of undercutting Gibson's stark
    raving prices.... they'd be frustrated temporarily. ...but not for long.

    Ridiculous. Personally, I don't get it. They could stamp anything they wanted on the
    bottom of their Standard humbuckers, or on the bottom of their new design mini humbucker...
    So why do they stamp a bogus patent number?

    Beats me... These pickups sound so good, I don't care what they name them or what
    they stamp on the bottom. Enjoy your lovely SG... And that's fine looking
    Telecaster too.
     
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    Nice setup. That is one hell of a special edition princeton reverb you got!
     
  13. BenTobith

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    Thanks! It has a Celestion Creamback in it (12").
     
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    Nice. Yeah, I saw that one, too. There's about four or five different limited edition runs out there with 12" speakers of various brands. Ultimately, I felt the Creamback was best for me, but I'd say the Greenback is a solid option.

    The amp sounds truly spectacular. Works so well with pedals, even high gain. Tons of low end.
     
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