Is this a normal pineapple inlay on a 2005 Standard?

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  1. sazista

    sazista Active Member

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    I had a 2005 for a few minutes in my life and don't remember it looking like that. The rest of the guitar looks legit. It's on sale here in Santiago, Chile.
    I just posted the last 3 the guy had on his listing. Well, the Jury's out on this one!!
     

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    fake fake fake...

    esto es una falsificación
     
  3. sazista

    sazista Active Member

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    It just looks so badly placed or cut I couldn't believe it would make it out of the Gibson factory. Well, it wouldn't surprise me if it's a fake as there are tons of them here in Chile.
     
  4. Norton

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    It’s really difficult to make any kind of call from the pics you sent.

    Separation around the headstock inlays is extremely common. Is what we’re seeing separation from nitro shrinking?

    If so? Then it looks legit. But again. More pics are needed.

    The inlays look right for a late 90’s - mid 2000’s gibson. There appears to be binding nibs at the fret edges.

    Id say more and better pics are needed before making any accurate call. From the pics you posted, The only thing that screams “questionable” to me is the serial number.

    What is this guitar supposed to be? As in year etc?
     
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    Este hombre tiene mucho humor.
     
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    pancake81 Well-Known Member

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    I would need more photos. Makes you raise an eyebrow but I can’t definitively say real or fake
     
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    syscokid Well-Known Member

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    My only Gibson SG with the pineapple on the headstock is my old '70/'71 Standard. I just took 3 pics with different angles of the headstock:

    2018-10-12 08.35.57.jpg

    2018-10-12 08.35.31.jpg

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    I've seen a half dozen fake Les Pauls with nibs in the last year. I agree that the inlay separation is pretty common as are overlay replacements, so I wouldn't disqualify it for that and the tuners look like the real OEM stamping. It is hard to tell how much of the headstock strangeness (look at the 'Gibson' logo's shadows) is light artifact from the photos.
     
  9. pancake81

    pancake81 Well-Known Member

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    It does use the correct “1” in the serial number, which most fakes do not. I am leaning towards real.
     
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    pancake81 Well-Known Member

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    Here is a headstock photo of my 2001 61 RI

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    And this is a photo of my 2009 Custom Shop

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    Totally real!
     
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    Norton Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. What really makes it look legit to me is the pinkish tint to the binding.

    That is something no one’s going to fake.
     
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    pancake81 Well-Known Member

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    Lol, so true
     
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    Totally real. Just Google 2005 SG Standard and there's tons of pics of them and they look just like that.
     
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    Looks legit to me.
     
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    all right, all right... I said fake because the inlays look like they
    have a white outline. Maybe that's just the way the pictures look
    in the available light. Gibsons don't have a white outline, unless the
    inlay has separated like youse guys have shown, and the light reflects
    from the edge.

    My Gibsons don't look like that, because mine are so special.
    (and also because mine are only decals, or maybe silkscreen if ya want
    to get fancy).
    Fig 14 Feb 09 headstock.jpg
    Headstock 0515@100.jpg
     
  17. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Looks legit to me.

    From what I have seen...

    1961-1964 SG Standards and the SG 61 Reissue have the "pineapple" placed where the baseline is close to being even with the center tuning posts.

    1965-present SG Standards have the "pineapple" placed where the baseline is below the center tuning posts.

    The SG Standard '61 2019 has the "pineapple" placed at the same location as the recent regular SG Standards instead of the "historically correct" location for 1961-1964 SG Standards and SG 61 Reissues from previous years.

    See below...

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    Ageing and temperature changes can cause the clear coat to shrink creating an outline around headstock logo inlay and "pineapple" aka crown inlay.

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    The presence of "pineapple" inlays on headstocks accompanied by those large trapezoid inlays on the neck is going to add some extra weight to the equation and possibly contribute to the phenomenon known as neck dive.

    That’s one of the reasons why I rock the SG Classic with dots and no fruit on the headstock.

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. arcticsg

    arcticsg Well-Known Member

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    I've never really noticed this before. Something to keep an eye out for on the older ones I guess. These 2 pics are from my different 2005s. If you zoom in you will see the outline. It does not do this on my 2016s, 2017s or 2018s... yet. :smile:
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    2016:
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    2017:
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    2018:
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    Shrinkage: something all of us over 50 can relate to. :(
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    1970:

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    1969:

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