It Just Came Off In My Hand Guvnor'!

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  1. BillyHunt

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    £165? He can stick that where the sun don't shine. Epiphone necks don't break like that unless you run over them with a car.
     
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    I probably shouldn't jinx myself, but in 42 years of playing Gibson guitars I have never broken a headstock off, and I haven't always been gentle with them. I concur with donepearce, you almost have to try to break one that badly. Not to mention the big gouge in the neck behind the break.
     
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    It's not just door knobs.... that come off in your hand.

    ©Neil Innes
     
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    I had bought a 'professionally' repaired D'angelico Hollow off of feebay for 89 bucks. Yes, it had the typical headstock break and needed all the parts to make it playable, but it was "Professionally" repaired remember, how could I go wrong? So I started to do the pretty work of staining around the crack, applying finish, etc etc, and one day came into my little guitar room, where it hung proudly on the wall, and noticed the D string hanging loose. Ok, I thought, string must have snapped. I picked it from the wall hanger, and the headstock exploded all over the room! (Still can't find that one piece of binding!) Needless to say, I redid the repair, and a year later, still in one piece.

    One day in a GC, I saw an Epiphone SG, the 3 pickup one for 199. Wow, I thought, decent price, and saw the little crack around the headstock. Ok, a repaired headstock, but still..... 199. So I picked it up, and touched the headstock, and it fell off, and hit me in the knee with the strings making it swing like a pendulum. The one "manager" saw this and said, "Don't worry, that happens from time to time." And I noticed the crack had been "repaired" with …. wait for it...…. wait for it...… rubber cement! Yep, that same crap we had in school, and made rubber boogers to shoot at the girls in class! Being a tech for 30 years, you can imagine my attitude with this "repair". By the end of my little tirade, both the manager and the "tech" (How I shudder to think of that jerk ever touching another guitar...) were both fired.
     
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    That has got to be the most unusual break I have seen. It almost looks like some super-force pulled the headstock off.

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    That's the more recent worn model, not the Vintage from 2003 to 2005. Easy to find one not broken.
     
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    Exactly, it is broken straight across the grain, not along it. It isn't possible to have an accident that would cause that break. That takes a huge force, and it pretty much has to be deliberate.
     
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    Ouch! Pete Townsend Signature Model II?
     
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    That cross section looks like a granola bar.
     
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    I believe that Epi guitars are less susceptible to the dreaded
    headstock break than their more expensive and more traddie
    Gibson cousins.
    Caledonia headstock@100.jpg
    Epiphone guitars are made with a 'scarf Joint' which joins the
    headstock to the neck. This strengthens this vulnerable area.
    In addition, Epi guitars have less back angle to the headstock,
    which accomplishes the same thing.
    headstock back@100.jpg
    Imagine the outcry from Gibson cork sniffers if Gibson tried it.
    OMG! The les paul design calls for a 17 degree back angle and a
    one piece mahogany neck! HOW DARE YOU VARY FROM SPEC?!!!
    WTF Gibson!!! You think anyone will pay $3000 or more for this
    POS! All the tone experts would be talking about how the tone of
    the new stronger necks just suck compared to the old models from
    the fifties. So Gibson is trapped by the excellence of their tradition.
    I also believe that the vulnerable neck joint contributes to the awesome
    tone we get from our Gibsons. Two of my newer Gibsons are made with maple necks, and these also sound excellent, if non-traditional.
    Which is why I bought them. Maple necks have a lot of virtues, as
    any Fender guy will tell you.
    10128031-serial-xlarge.jpg
     
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    Evidence to the contrary....I had two of these arrive in this condition.:rofl:
     
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    maybe they got run over by a tank...
    F3SW8XVGWOSAK1K.LARGE.jpg

    Somebody's rotten kids were obviously scribbling on those cartons,
    practicing their graffiti skills... maybe they were jumping
    on them too.
     
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    I've never broken a headstock off in 40 years of playing, though the only drop I've had in that time on my old 73 LP resulted in a crack that grew into one of the wing seams and requied some repair, though intact after impact. I'm pretty sure the volute did its job well, corkers be damned. Having a three-piece neck probably helped, too.

    I've seen pics of other guitars with cross-grain breaks like the OP's ad shows. I'm trying hard to imagine what would cause a break pattern like that with little success, but it's also hard for me to imagine several different people deciding to destroy their guitars in such a manner to produce such an unusual break. Hard to say.
     
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    ya, it looks like the neck was made of chipboard
    ...sawdust held together with ticky tacky
     
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    I've never broken one either, but I am the beneficiary of another's misfortune:
    neck fix.jpg scg4.jpg Classic.jpg
    The best neck of the bunch.
     
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