JonesyBlues Harness

Discussion in 'Tone Zone' started by brazilnut, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. brazilnut

    brazilnut Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    268
    Likes Received:
    249
    Location:
    Weed, CA
    I have one of Jonesey's SG harnesses laying around. I wonder if I should install it? I already have a set of Castle PUs in this guitar, and the tone improvement was amazing. Will his harness really help that much? The pots in there now are 300K, and the caps are stock Mylar disks. But the guitar has a nice meaty sound to it, with great complex highs, mostly due to those pickups. Should I expect a tonal change? IMG_8894.JPG
     
  2. DrBGood

    DrBGood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,343
    Likes Received:
    5,767
    Location:
    Sutton Québec
    There's your answer right there.
     
    flognoth and brazilnut like this.
  3. Thumpalumpacus

    Thumpalumpacus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    253
    I have no informed opinion, but I'm interested as well in reading opinions. The thought's crossed my mind of getting a Jonesy harness for my Ibanez in the hopes of opening it up a little more.
     
    brazilnut likes this.
  4. flognoth

    flognoth Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2015
    Messages:
    263
    Likes Received:
    205
    If you're happy with the sound as is why change it?
     
    alligatorbling and brazilnut like this.
  5. brazilnut

    brazilnut Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    268
    Likes Received:
    249
    Location:
    Weed, CA
    Just fishing for experienced opinions here. It's always better to make an informed decision. Too bad so many of mine are leaps in the dark.
     
  6. alligatorbling

    alligatorbling Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2012
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    124
    i used to build and sell pedals and do harnesses for friends. 50s wiring will allow you to retain more highs when you roll the volume back, but thats pretty much it. i know a lot about guitar electronics. that said i do not plan to "upgrade" the electronics in my new SG

    most tonal changes heard with harness swaps are placebo. different values will sound different, i.e 500k pots vs 300k pots, .022 caps vs .033.... its all subjective. my advice is if you like the way it sounds now, leave it be.

    now all that said, a lot of harnesses built by guys like jonsey are really high quality, the parts are top shelf. stock components can sometimes be less than best, BUT if the stock parts sounds good then, well... you see where im going with this.
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2019
    brazilnut likes this.
  7. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2009
    Messages:
    7,545
    Likes Received:
    7,372
    Location:
    Michigan
    +1 on the notion that if you like the tone your guitar gives you...
    just rock that sucker, play it loud, and quit modding it.

    But I do understand about mod fever. It keeps you awake in the middle
    of the night, making you wonder if you could squeeze a bit more tone out
    of your ongoing SG project. Many of us suffer from it, and it does NOT
    have to make sense.

    If you didn't already own the wiring harness, I'd suggest that you play the
    one you have until you are totally familiar with everything it can do.
    Then you'd have a clear idea of whether you needed to make a change.
    You'd know and you wouldn't need to ask us.

    But since you already have the Blues harness, you ought to go ahead and
    install it. I don't think you'll rest easy until you do. If it's high quality,
    it won't do any harm. And if it's totally unnecessary, the audience will
    never know or care. And we will keep your secret for you.

    Mine own experience says this: I replaced the wiring harness in my 2007
    SG special, because guys on this forum were adamant about how piss-poor
    the 300K stock Gibson pots were. At that time, I was a newbie, and tried to
    learn as much as I could from more experienced members. The reason I wanted
    to 'buy the best" for my '07 SG was because I was so in love with it. Nothin' but
    the best for my baby. The tone and the feel of that humble SG faded special
    were (and still are) the best guitar of any kind that I have ever played.
    (before AND after the mods)

    So I did it, and the tone and the feel of my prized Gibson are still the best
    guitar of any kind that I have ever played. Did I need to do it? Maybe not.
    But every time I put that particular instrument down after playing, it's with
    the spoken or unspoken statement: "What a great guitar..."

    So I have no regrets. My prized SG was (is) worth it. A few years later, I bought
    a 2012 Gibson SG special '70s tribute... this one came equipped with stock Gibson 500k pots, and I've left the factory wiring in place. It's fine. Since my
    '12 SG came with 500k pots, I'm surprised to hear this issue come up again.

    Is Gibson still equipping their guitars with the much maligned 300k pots?
    If my '12 SG came with 500k pots, when did they switch back, and why?
    I never could figure out why they put the 300k pots on in the first place...
    Seth Lover's original design called for 500k.

    Questions, questions. I dunno all the answers. But I like what I have, and
    I suspect that you will too, once the mod is complete.
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2019
    brazilnut likes this.
  8. Thumpalumpacus

    Thumpalumpacus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    253
    This is all I really want. I play with the guitar's volume a bit managing my grit, and there's nothing worse than having the spring leave your step when you drop volume. I want it to stay open whether I'm on three or nine, 'cause I loves me some chime.
     
    brazilnut likes this.
  9. DrBGood

    DrBGood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,343
    Likes Received:
    5,767
    Location:
    Sutton Québec
    There are great marketing guys out there and great enablers on the web. They know your weaknesses and can exploit them without you feeling any pain at all.

    merchandising
    [mur-chuh n-dahy-zing]

    noun
    the planning and promotion of sales by presenting a product to the right market at the proper time, by carrying out organized, skillful advertising, using attractive displays, etc.
     
    brazilnut likes this.
  10. Norton

    Norton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2013
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    348
    Location:
    Minneapolis
    https://annarborguitars.com/styled-4/index.html

    Scroll down to the videos about guitar wiring. This guy is fantastic. Direct A/B comparisons between just about every option available.

    Very scientific. Very illuminating.

    Wiring schemes can be a big deal. The wire??? Not likely.
     
    brazilnut likes this.
  11. Thumpalumpacus

    Thumpalumpacus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    253
    If it's something you want, is this a bad thing?
     
    brazilnut likes this.
  12. DrBGood

    DrBGood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,343
    Likes Received:
    5,767
    Location:
    Sutton Québec
    If you're sure you don't want it because your brain was told so, yeah [​IMG]
     
    brazilnut likes this.
  13. Thumpalumpacus

    Thumpalumpacus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    253
    I'm as sure as I need to be, thanks. No doubt you are as well.
     
    DrBGood likes this.
  14. DrBGood

    DrBGood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,343
    Likes Received:
    5,767
    Location:
    Sutton Québec
    [​IMG]
     
    brazilnut likes this.
  15. brazilnut

    brazilnut Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    268
    Likes Received:
    249
    Location:
    Weed, CA
    Boys, boys...
    I've been gigging that 2005 brown Standard for years. And for years I left the stock 490-498 pickups alone. Then I bought that set of Castles and put em in the SG, and holy cow, what a difference! So maybe the harness'll squeeze a little more out of those pups, like the man says. I don't roll off volume with the knob, Thump. I balance on a volume pedal all night instead, and I don't think it affects the highs as much that way. Regardless, I appreciate all you guys have said. It's a real pleasure getting advice from the likes of you. That's why I always ask.
     
    DrBGood and Thumpalumpacus like this.
  16. Thumpalumpacus

    Thumpalumpacus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    253
    Glad my comments were of some use, though I'm not really qualified to give anyone advice -- I just know what I like.

    I did the volume-pedal thing for a long time, but with an NMV amp, so take that for what it's worth. I've got an MFX unit with a bum power supply, when I get that sorted it'll go into the FX loop on my amp with a view to using the exp pedal for volume when the FX aren't engaged. Having gone so long without a volume pedal, I've adjusted to dialing in on the fly, but not having volume swells handy irks me. A new harness won't change that -- vol knobs are too far from picking hand -- but still, dialing the attack back without losing treble is important enough to me to consider Jonesy's harness.
     
    brazilnut and DrBGood like this.
  17. brazilnut

    brazilnut Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2013
    Messages:
    268
    Likes Received:
    249
    Location:
    Weed, CA
    Well. Ive got one, if you want it. Cost me $120 a year ago. Might sell it for less...
     
  18. Thumpalumpacus

    Thumpalumpacus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    253
    I'll hit you up when I'm ready for it, bud, thanks!
     
    brazilnut likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice