Let's see your vintage SG!

Discussion in 'Vintage SG' started by Kevin James, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. Relic61

    Relic61 Well-Known Member

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    I will comment in the manner of our brothers across the pond would use when I say, BULLOCKS! I mean, who really likes to be wrong or miss a chance to show why they are right? A big WTF goin out to Guitar & Bass UK. Hey!, WTF!
     
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    Late to the game . . . my 1961 LP/SG . . with PAFs :)

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    That's in really nice condition Tricone, have you owned it long?
     
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    Great looking guitar! One for sale at "Blue Hugh music"!
     
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    Thanks, Delboy. I've owned it for almost 2 years now.

    I also own this '64 SG Special

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    Think the info on the dotted/undotted i is in Tom Wheeler's "American Guitars". Could be wrong.
     
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    My info came from a two volume set about "Gibson" guitars only. They were rather old with the last volume printed before the 90's and maybe even the 80's. As far as the undotted 'i' goes. You can see this change on the SG standards by my own 71 Standard as example having the dot while my 69 SG Standard does not.

    Like I mentioned, the Customs did take longer to go through parts but by 77 this shouldn't be the case. Until we know for certain that its a 77 well, we just need the year first or everything is kinda sorta irrelevant except it is always nice to be factual about stuff like this.

    As far as facts go, I personally have 2 guitars that validate the undotted 'i' statement for the SG Standard. Could the Custom be a different case? Well that headstock already has the split diamond inlay & a binding not found on the Standard but I think for the most part during this era the Gibson Logo itself mostly stayed similar but, I could be wrong & I'm no expert by any stretch. Plus I havent slept at a Holiday Inn for over a week now!

    Here's my 71 SG with a dotted i in the Gibson.
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    Here's my 69 SG Standard.

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    The 'i's may be hard to see but you can trust me about the dot & the years. At least on these 2.
     
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    Here's a picture of he headstock. The guitar was refinished in ebony (from Natural) and the guy stupidly painted over the serial number (it's a decal BTW). The first two numbers look like "06". Excuse the upside down pic!
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    Beautiful 61 :applause:

    Cool to see another bay area vintage SG nut. What part of the bay are you in?
     
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    The dotted I is installed on its own besides the logo, a drilled hole and put the dot in. Maybe the employee forgot or didnt care of this extra measure on some guitars ? or they ran out of those tiny pearl discs?

    Just a theory as it varies from guitar to guitar during the same year
    Its been discussed for a long time.

    QC wasnt at its best in the early Nashville years
     
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    There ya go numb. I think Mike puts the most probable answer out there. Yours is definately a 77 by the serial number & it should have that dotted i. You just have something that makes it special bro. I love stuff like that & would feel kind of lucky to own it.

    She sure is a pretty Headstock! How about a body shot?:naughty:
     
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    PS, no intention to hijack the thread!
     
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    NumNum, that is awesome! A 3 pup beauty! Truly classic.

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    Did Frampton have any influence in you buying it?
     
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    Pretty cool under that hood eh? Back in the day all the SGs were routed out for 3 humbuckers. My 69 Standard was actually converted to a Custom probably in the 70's. You just know the owner took that pickguard off oneday and a light bulb went 'DING DING DING' I just gotta put another pickup in there. ..right..

    Now as for that patent number, as you found out, it is not for the humbucker patent but supposedly put on there intentionally wrong to mislead & throw people off from stealing there new hum solving design. Ohhh I hear you say. Ya, a lot of thought and effort to throw people off when an engineer just had to take it apart right? Well at least the sticker helps us identify the era pickup (unless the stickers are faked).

    Anyway, cool pics! I'm glad you posted that cavity shot so other people can see what Gibson used to do to the SG body and then hide it behind that big batwing pickguard. Funny thing is that this actually gives this era a very unique resonance & acoustic tone. Combine that with the long Lyre Vibrola & Patent Sticker era pups & we have an awesome sounding SG that is unmatched in tone by the other SG designs. They sound 'alive' man. Such a wonderful instrument! Congratulations! She is a beauty. Enjoy that mate.
     
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    Nah, I just have always loved the look of a 3 pickup Custom.
     
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    And aint that the best guitar story of the decade, that Peter Framptons modified 54 Custom showed up , after being declared destroyed in a plane crash in 1981?

    Such a great guitar moment seeing him get it back

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