Looking to get a Gothic, any thoughts?

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  1. Charles Brock

    Charles Brock New Member

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    New here. I've been eyeballing the Gothics. Couple of questions. Thoughts on overall quality? And are there significant differences in the years of production? I read somewhere that the later ones are more desirable. Currently looking at a 2006. TIA
     
  2. HackeIommi

    HackeIommi Active Member

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    Hi Charles! Welcome aboard. Years ago, I played a Gothic SG. I can't remember which year and specs. All I can say is, it was a nightmare. Sounded weak and hard to play. The finish was weird, IDK how to describe. My hands were not moving easily. But can be a good guitar for high gain lovers if they can play.
     
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    everdying Well-Known Member

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    i always thought the earlier ones are nicer? they came with a 490/498(?) combo...whereas the 2006 have EMGs which also means a non-standard control cavity rout.
    then it had the more traditional neck pin location, whereas the 2006 moved it to the horn like the iommi.
    plus the older one had the cool 'moon star' inlay at the 12th.
     
  4. Col Mustard

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    Welcome to ETSG!... Personally, I've always thought
    the Goth SGs looked awesome and radical. Like the music
    they could make might be dark and crazy.

    But how do they play, and how do they sound through
    the signal chain you intend to use?

    None of us can answer that for you. We know nothing
    about your music and your amps and pedals.
    General statements about year class are mostly baloney
    also, because there are good ones and bad ones in every production run.

    Guitars with active pickups are a whole different circus ring than
    the ones that I play. I can't offer any opinion about them, except that
    some performers need active pickups because of the decibel levels that
    they perform at. Others (like me) have no use for active pickups because
    of the (lower) decibel levels that we play. That's one of the determining factors.

    How loud do you play? Active p'ups can give clarity to your signal at gain
    levels that would turn my guitar signal into mush. Passive pickups like I
    use can give clarity to your signal at much lower levels, for playing in
    listening rooms and smaller venues. Active pickups are useless for practice
    in apartment buildings or neighborhoods built close together. They can
    get you evicted in genteel neighborhoods, or shot in more barbaric
    areas. Your call... Passive pickups are less useful in loud bands with
    insane drummers you have to stand right next to.

    Might as well get started with some hard learned wisdom:

    *PLAY IT BEFORE YOU BUY IT... that's how you know.
    It doesn't matter what year it was made, it only matters what
    it sounds like to you when played through your own amp and
    pedals. It also matters what it feels like in your hands.

    *Plan to get whatever you buy professionally set up
    before you try and judge it. Setup is crucial when you
    buy a used guitar, or a new one. Think of the cost of the
    setup as part of the price you pay. Take your new SG
    to the best luthier you can find or afford. Pay him to
    check every solder joint, and the frets and get the neck
    straight, and set up the action and the intonation.

    After you get it set up and put it through its paces on
    your own equipment, playing your own songs, then we'll
    want to hear your review, and the next ETSG unwritten rule
    comes into play;

    PICTURES, OR IT NEVER HAPPENED.

    Good luck in your quest... There are lots of great SGs out there
    for sale.
     
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    Chubbles Well-Known Member

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    :lol: What he said. I'm OK with those pickups. Many don't like them at all.
     
  6. Charles Brock

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    Thanks guys. Appreciate it. I liked the looks of the Gothic and the price point is good for me. I need to figure out how to get my hands on one so I can actually play it.
     
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    Make a search SG Gothic and SG Morte, the SG Morte has GEM active electronics by Gibson (not EMG).
    The SG Voodoo, same period than the SG Gothic is awesome too.
     
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    I always liked the looks of the Gothic. I feel some gas possibly coming my way. Thanks for that!
     
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  9. Charles Brock

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    So I was a little concerned about buying a Gothic without having actually played one in person. So I pulled the trigger on an 2019 Standard Ebony. Got it for a good price. I should have it next Wednesday.
     
  10. HackeIommi

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    Congratulations! Remember! We are waiting for the photos :cheers:
     
  11. NMA

    NMA Well-Known Member

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    Wow, never heard of the Gothic SG. Googled a pic...wow, pretty gothic.

    [​IMG]

    Definitely a striking guitar, but I do feel any SG would fit the gothic bill.
     
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    Do you know the SG Menace ?


    Temp 30.jpg
     
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    Good call on the standard. Had a gothic and it was ok, unfortunately qc was not great and kinda dead wood in tone. Did take a beating and function fine though.
     
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    I don't think you can go wrong with an SG Standard...
    It's one of the best guitars Gibson makes. Ignore all hype and spin,
    and the SG will bring home the ship.

    What SGs are is versatile. You can play just about any genre of music
    on an SG. This is a fact. The SG can do what ever its owner is capable of.
    AND SOMETIMES... the SG can inspire her owner to accomplish musical feats
    he didn't know he was capable of.

    That's the part I like best about the SG. I have other guitars I play, but return
    often to the SG like coming home to an old lover, who understands everything
    better than any lover is reputed to.

    So I think the Standard is a better choice than the Goth, simply because of this
    versatility. The Goth might be trapped in some kind of punk vortex, where you
    try different things but always sound the same. The Standard will not be limited
    in this way. Try different things on a Standard, and you may end up somewhere
    you didn't expect. This is priceless. *grins.
     
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    Well said Col!
     
  16. Charles Brock

    Charles Brock New Member

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    My Standard just arrived. Very excited to plug her in. Thanks for all the help. Screen Shot 2019-07-24 at 11.53.10 AM.png Screen Shot 2019-07-24 at 11.56.58 AM.png Screen Shot 2019-07-24 at 11.57.10 AM.png
     
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    Nice! Iommi would approve.
     
  18. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    that guitar is so black...
    I don't think it could get much blacker.

    I know the Goth is more of a total black
    like a submarine in a dark ocean
    but this SG ought to serve you well.
    I like the unrelieved black of the Goth, black hardware
    no markings on the fretboard...
    But this Standard is a lovely thing too, and the trim
    colors just give it some design.

    Get her set up, and put her through her paces.
    Then we'll want to hear you compare and contrast her
    with that Lester you were teasing us with,
    in the back ground.
     
  19. HackeIommi

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    I did by hitting the like button :D:D
     
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    Beautiful ebony SG, great choice , play loud !
     

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