Metal Pickup Ring vrs. Plastic

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  1. Preactor

    Preactor New Member

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    Has anyone tried using metal pickup rings instead of plastic ones that are stock? I know the metal bridge gives a telecaster it's classic sound using a single coil pickup. These metal bridges somehow change the magnetic field of the pickup. How would this work with Humbuckers? I need to check with the gurus on this forum before I spend or waste my $20. BTW I have an Epiphone SG Special and looking for a clean tele type tone.
     
  2. DrBGood

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    Humm ... I doubt that a humbucker ring will change anything in that pup tone. But it won't warp.
     
  3. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Why not use a Tele if that is the sound you are going for?
     
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  4. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    An Epiphone SG special will never sound like a telecaster.
    So you should NOT spend or waste your $20.00.

    Pickup rings are made of material that will NOT affect the tone.
    Gibson pickup rings are made of plastic, and they don't affect the tone.
    Aftermarket pickup rings are made of aluminum, or brass or some pot
    metal alloy that is NOT magnetic, and so has NO effect on tone.

    Your Epi SG special has its own distinctive sound, and you should play
    it as such. Use it for the songs that its tone is right for. An SG with
    hum buckers is a very versatile instrument, and will output whatever its
    owner is capable of, within the limitations of its pickups and the amp
    it is played through. You can play rock or jazz or blues or country or
    almost anything with your Epiphone SG, but it will never sound like
    a Telecaster.

    When the song calls for the tone of a Telecaster, it's best to use
    a real Telecaster. The Fender Telecaster evolved out of Leo Fender's
    earlier pedal steel guitars, and the characteristic tone of the Tele's
    bridge p'up is unlike any other instrument. It's not the steel bridge,
    it's the whole package... the pickup, the plate underneath, the
    "string through the body" setup, the brass bridge saddles...

    All of it together is what gives the Telecaster its character,
    and this is the reason that the Telecaster is still in production all
    these years later. There is NO substitute. Save your money up...
    honor your SG for the tone that it has, and don't fuss about the
    tone that it does NOT have. Save your money and buy yourself a
    Telecaster when you can afford it. Buy the best one you can find...
    You won't regret this.
     
  5. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    Oh and if you want to get a clean tone from your Epiphone,
    just roll the volume knobs back some. This costs nothing and
    gives you a positive plan of action. Try playing your Epi through
    your amp with a lower gain setting, lower volume setting on the
    guitar knobs, and a higher volume setting on the amp.

    Mess with these variables a bit, until you hear something clean
    and loud enough to do what's needed.

    Go online and find tutorials on "Jazz Tone." (and how to get it).
    This is a legendary thing that guitarists strive to achieve with whatever
    equipment they own. It translates to "clean tone" ...where the tone of
    the instrument is clean and crisp but still interesting.

    That's the challenge. Clean tone often seems pretty tame when you're used to a lot of overdrive or metallic whatsis... But Jazz musicians manage
    to make their guitar parts interesting, and to blend with other instruments
    when this is called for, and to step out for a solo when it's time, and without distortion or other 'effects." Maybe a little reverb.

    Country musicians mostly play clean also... at least the ones that I know
    seem to. And they make their guitars sound very interesting too, without
    all the effects or distortion. They might indulge in a little reverb or
    compression to get that "chicken pickin' sound...

    You can too.
     
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  6. Bonzo21

    Bonzo21 Active Member

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    In my experience it doesn't affect the tone of humbuckers at all. I've done it on two occasions. For me it is purely aesthetic, and only looks right on certain guitars.
     
  7. Layne Matz

    Layne Matz Well-Known Member

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    A lot excellent points Colonol:yesway:
     
  8. Musekatcher

    Musekatcher Active Member

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    I associate the telecaster middle position as easily recognizable. My SG Special gets pretty close in its middle position, and it chicken picks with a lot of quack and twank? At the same time, the middle position can sound like a strat 2/4 position? I often describe the sound as "tele"-like.

    And yes, I do remember playing strats when they only had 3 positions, and we thought we were doing something wrong by wedging the in-between positions to get rid of the annoying buzzing from florescent lights...
     
  9. El Marin

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    Yes it will

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  11. Bad Penguin

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    Sorry, no it won't. It will sound like an SG with a single in the bridge. You don't have the metal mass, the brass plate under the pickup, the bolt on neck, the ash or not mahogany wood, the maple neck, the 25 1/2 inch scale.....
     
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  12. El Marin

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    Sorry but it does. It does as mahogany Teles sound as a Tele, Cabronitas, rosewood neck teles, and all kind of teles with different pickups sound as a Tele. I had over ten Teles and only keep one.

    A bridge pickup in a SG Tele makes it sound as a mahogany Tele... so like a Tele... and it plays lie a SG. Best of both worlds together!!!
     
  13. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    There are no rules on how to configure your guitar or how it has to sound. No need to compare it to another type of guitar that is stereotyped to have a particular sound. Guitars are tools that can be modified and utilized to how you see fit.

    If it sounds good to your ears and you like it then that is all that matters.
     
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