My first post, 2001 SG jr tuner question

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  1. Clarence001

    Clarence001 New Member

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    Hi All,
    Such a great site, I've learned so much from all the responses to questions. And now I have a question....

    I have an 01 SG jr with a bigsby, I love it. I mention the bigsby because I don't know if it's adding pressure to the tuners or if some tuners work better with the bigsby. Anyway, the case of the Gibson Deluxe tuners are popping off and I'm looking into new tuners. I know there are ways of 'fixing' the case by squeezing with vise grips, but I'm looking for a better solution. I'm interested in replacing the tuners with good ones that will last. Price not really of super importance. What I'd really like is drop in tuners that I can pop in without drilling or headaches.

    Are there any tuner recommendations out there that fit this description?

    Any help is much appreciated!
     
  2. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to ETSG!

    I'll recommend Grover "vintage keystone" tuners
    which will fit in the same holes as your stock tuners
    and weigh the same, so that your guitar's balance is
    not upset. Here's a link:

    https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_an...s/Grover_Vintage_135_Series_3and3_Tuners.html

    On this same site you'll find replacement tuners for the
    Gibson 'white button" type tuners in case you want the instrument to look the same. Tuners sold by Stewmac
    are high quality and will do what you need without making
    your guitar headstock heavy.

    Remember our unwritten motto:

    Pictures, or it
    never happened
     
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  3. Clarence001

    Clarence001 New Member

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    Thanks very much Col Mustard, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. I'll happily post up the results soon!
     
  4. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Grover 135n
    Not a fan of the small white buttons.
    Green Keystones.

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    arcticsg Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the board! [​IMG]

    I still have the stock Gibby tuners on my 2005 Standard w/Bigsby. Never a problem here.

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  6. skelt101

    skelt101 Active Member

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    One thing to keep in mind when swapping out these tuners is the type of bushing, i.e. bolt vs press fit. Most Gibson USA guitars use the bolt style, which requires a 10mm hole. However, the stock tuners in my 2019 SG Special used a press fit, which requires a 8.5mm hole. It's also recommended to use the existing mounting screws if you can. That way, the thread pathway in the wood doesn't change.
     
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  7. Clarence001

    Clarence001 New Member

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    Thing of beauty!

     
  8. Clarence001

    Clarence001 New Member

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    Excellent point re the existing mounting screws, did not have that on the radar. I'll double check the hole diameter as well, though it seems most have said the 10mm works. Thanks for the reply!
     
  9. Clarence001

    Clarence001 New Member

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    I was going to compromise and thinking of the nickel buttons. I'm not a fan of the white either. I have a special with the keystones, thinking about differentiating them.
     
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    I think all Jrs and Special should have the white button tuners. Love the simple look- Keystones seem out of place to me.
     
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  11. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    I like Keystones on SG Classics and late 60's SG Specials. Small White Buttons don't bother me on a Junior. Small Nickel Buttons would look better IMO.

    I think maybe since the SG Classics and late 60's SG Specials have bound necks and headstock logo as inlay, Small White Buttons look cheap to my eyes on those models. With the stripped down look of an unbound neck and silkscreen headstock logo on a Junior, the Small White Buttons seem more fitting, but I like the idea of the Small Nickel Buttons as opposed to the Small White Buttons.

    To me, guitars are tools. I don't spend much time staring at tuning keys, knobs, bridges, bevels, etc. But if there are features that are unpleasing to the eye when reaching for a guitar from a wall hanger or case, it may be uninspiring to play for some folks.

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    Those two cover a lot of territory. Very nice. Is that a Custom Shop TV?
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.
    Yes on Custom Shop TV.
    2017 ‘58 Reissue LP Junior DC
     
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    jonnyfez Member

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    VERY nice. My bandmate has one. Biggest neck I've ever played. Fantastic guitar.
     
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