My Gibson SG

Discussion in 'Gibson SG' started by Neil Hoffman, Jul 6, 2019.

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  1. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to ETSG!

    I like unusual guitars, so yours got my attention.
    It's a very interesting rescue of a guitar which might
    otherwise be in some dustbin. Pickup combination
    seems quite capable of rawk an roll.

    The only troubling detail for me is the fact that if you play the
    instrument right handed, the eagle and the flag will be upside down.

    Since you are in UK, this is probably not important.
    Here in Babylon, we have some individuals who might object
    or take the image as blasphemy. In UK, you can give them
    a punk response.

    But our country has lost all sense of humor, and our society
    has devolved into a nation of crybabies. Anyway if you tour
    in the U.S. ...choose a different guitar. *grins

    You probably need another SG anyway.
     
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  2. Neil Hoffman

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    Thank you everyone for your comments I didn't mean to come across too serious apologies if I gave that impression I am new to speaking on forums.
     
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  3. Neil Hoffman

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    Col Mustard I didn't notice that about the flag and eagle before but you are right. To be honest I just picked the decal cos I liked it didn't really think how it would look when I was playing the guitar. No offence intended to American friends across the pond
     
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  4. fos1

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    Very nice.

    Better than a custom shop.
     
  5. plankton

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    I like the combination of pickups. I've been thinking about doing the same with my G400 Pro, keeping the stock bridge pickup and probably putting a Tonerider Rebel 90 in the neck.

    It's great fun modding guitars and making them exactly the way you want. Thanks for sharing, and welcome to ETSG.
     
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    Ya know, I played our neighborhood 4th of July party and some of the folks seemed pretty reserved. Right before I started "Fixin' to Die Rag." I reminded the crowd, "Hey this is our country, not his and he can kiss our red, white, and blue behinds, if he ever pulls his nose out of Vlad's butt."
     
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    That sounds like a good mod. I use neck P-90s for very dark distorted leads as well as poppy melodic stuff.
     
  8. Robert Morris

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    No politics please. They all suck anyway
     
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    None at all, old man, just a non-partisan anecdote from a patriotic celebration.
     
  10. Huntroll

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    With a small magnet you could determine which coil in the Dirty Fingers pickup has the same magnetic pull as the P-90 and wire a toggle or pull-up switch to short that coil to ground so the remaining configuration, when activated, would be hum-bucking.
     
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  11. Col Mustard

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    The punk response is best: Get stuffed!

    I'm all for humor when ever possible. I took no offense,
    and in UK, the decal might be regarded as a statement
    and be well received. Especially in London.

    Do people ever display the Union Jack upside down as an anti-British
    symbol? *grins. (actually, with the Union Jack, how would we know
    it was upside down?)
     
  12. Neil Hoffman

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    What do you guys think of bare knuckles pickups the mule and juggernaut sets ??
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    I really want to vote but where is the "strange" option ? LOL

    Please can you post a full guitar picture ?
     
  15. Neil Hoffman

    Neil Hoffman Member

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    Joined the forum to seek advice from those with more experience than myself. The voting thing was not intended. It would not let me proceed to upload pictures without it.

    It won't let me upload a full picture keeps saying file too large tried to edit the photo but still won't let me
     
  16. Neil Hoffman

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    I am not sure if i have made a mistake choosing these pickups on my guitar I really need some advice??
     
  17. Col Mustard

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    Here's an answer to your question about Pickups:

    Bare knuckles pickups are a good brand, very well regarded
    on this forum. I personally have no experience with them, but they have an excellent reputation.

    My suggestion is for you to play your guitar as it is
    for a good long time before you resume ripping it apart.
    In your original post, you described your guitar as having
    Gibson pickups: a P-94 and a Dirty Fingers.

    This too is an excellent combination, and I can't see any need to
    change it. Play it, and listen a lot. If I had a guitar with a P-94 in
    the neck and a Dirty Fingers in the bridge, I'd play the hell out of
    it, just to see what it could do and where I could work it into
    my music. It seems like a very rock an roll combination to me.

    The Gibson pickup set and the Bare Knuckles pickup set are
    different. One is not better than the other, they are just different
    tools, for different jobs. People who know nothing about your
    music (like me) can't really recommend pickups to you. All we
    can do is tell you what we like, or don't like. That relates to each
    of our individual styles and preferences.

    The person whose opinion is most important is you. Play it and
    listen, and you can make up your own mind.

    IMHO, all pickups are accurate. Some may render tone a little differently
    than others, but the amp you use and the speakers inside it will have much
    more effect on tone. Even the pick you use might have more effect on tone
    than the pickups themselves, in my opinion. Or the lack of a pick.

    You don't have to spend lots more money to make great music with your
    new Gibson. You'd do better spending time...
     
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  18. flognoth

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    Bare Knuckle's Mule and Juggernaut are two very different pickups. The typical musical styles they're used for are also very different.

    The Mule is intended to be their PAF type pickup and has an Alnico 4 magnet. It has a more "vintage" style resistance. 8.4 kΩ in the bridge and 7.3 kΩ in the neck.

    The Juggernaut is intended to be a more modern style of pickup. The bridge pickup is ceramic based and the neck pickup is Alnico 5. The Juggernaut is a lot hotter than the Mule with 13.3 kΩ in the bridge and 8.9 kΩ in the neck.

    Which pickup is right for you? Depends on what sounds best to your ears and what tones you're going for. The Mule is brighter than the Juggernaut. The Juggernaut has more pronounced mids and bass frequencies. There are two very different pickups.

    I have some Black Dogs in two of my guitars. Which is considered a tweaked / hotter vintage pickup. My suggestion is to contact Bare Knuckle. Ben is really great at helping to determine the best pickup for your guitar and style.
     
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    Your existing P-94 pickup in the neck position ought to give you an excellent single coil tone, warm and full because of the neck position. You ought to get crystal clear clean tone with it, with just enough grit to make it interesting.

    Your existing Dirty Fingers is a high output hum bucker, so it will drive an amp very well. But it also cleans up beautifully just by dialing it back, so it's a very versatile bridge pickup.

    Using just the tone controls on your guitar you ought to be able to cover a lot of tonal ground with this combination.
    Add pedals as needed or desired. Turn the amp up, turn
    it down.
    I'd want to play it for a year before I considered any
    changes to it. It takes me a long time to explore ALL the
    capabilities of an interesting combination like this.
    There are a lot of capabilities to explore.
     
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    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    The Jimmy Page wiring setup seems like a useless
    boondoggle to me. Keep things simple: performance is
    complicated enough and filled with distractions.
    Keep your mind on the song, and not the hardware IMHO.

    Also the Jimmy Page wiring setup was designed almost
    fifty years ago, so he could get unusual tones out of the
    equipment that was available to him in those days.
    What he had to work with was primitive compared to now.

    We all have more tonal options available to us right now
    with the new amps and pedals we can plug right into
    than Jimmy Page could even dream of when he was forming
    Led Zeppelin. If he could have seen a modern pedal board
    when he was searching for his tone back then, he would
    probably not have done that to his Les Pauls.
     
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