New member and huge SG fan

Discussion in 'Epiphone SG' started by SGfan84, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. SGfan84

    SGfan84 New Member

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    Hello everyone long time lurker and seemingly new SG fan here.

    I wanted to share my excitement and love for these guitars. I began playing strat style guitars, mostly in the superstrat style HSS configurations. For 20 years, I experimented very little until the past 5 years or so where I began checking out ES339, Les Pauls, Telecaster models etc.

    Last year I picked up a gently used worn G400 but didn't take much interest in it until about 6 or 7 months back when the hum from my Tele neck single coil became unbearable during band rehearsals, Les Paul was too heavy and Strats were not best for my constant changing tuning for different songs. So I began using the SG and man did my guitar playing world change!

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    Then in May, after realizing that all other guitars were of no interest, I began selling most of my guitars and I purchased a 2018 Gibson SG Faded AND a 2017 Gibson SG standard (will do a seperate post for these in the Gibson section).

    Due to some trades, I acquired these in July: a 2005 SG G400 Goth in mint condition with hardcase and a 2017 SG G400 PRO barely used and in its box.

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    There are differences in each of them which I will discuss in a separate thread and hopefully with measurements and pictures to satisfy those who are curious about the different flavors these gems come in. What I can say is that I am now officially an SG nut, and I love the 12" radius and shorter 24.75 scale, as well as the superior fret access, the weight while playing standing up and the comfortable way it sits in your lap when playing sitting down. The Alnico Classics on their variants that come stock in these babies are versatile and I see no need in changing them, except the Goth, whose pickups are a bit grittier than the others and I may swap them out.

    Looking forward to seeing more pics and threads around here and thanks for looking!

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  2. arcticsg

    arcticsg Well-Known Member

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    Hi there, nice pics. We love pics around here ;)

    ...and Welcome aboard! :smile:
     
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  3. plankton

    plankton Well-Known Member

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    Welcome. I have several different styles of guitars but the SG will always be my favourite.

    From the factory the Worn and Goth G400 would have the same pickups, so it's interesting that you find the Goth grittier. Maybe it's the lack of covers on the Goth's pickups, or maybe someone swapped the originals out.
     
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    welcome to the Monkey House! And congratulations on making
    excellent guitar choices. I love that Goth of yours, and would probably
    treasure it for its gritty tone, since you have a lot of other ground
    covered.

    You don't want them all to sound the same do you? Or do you?
    Some guys will post that they've found their tone and are uninterested
    in any other, so they buy a backup guitar that's just like the one
    they usually play.

    Not me. One of the things I value for my music is diversity of
    tone. I have two SGs, one with regular Humbuckers and one with
    mini hums. I sound like myself when I play each of them but the
    subtle difference keeps things exciting for me.
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    And for gritty tones, I have my ES-339 P-90 pro. I still sound like
    me when I play it, but it's got something that the SGs don't.
    It's got an edge to it... a more jagged edge when I let the bridge
    P-90 have its head. And it's got a jazzy woody Tone when I let the
    neck pickup dominate. I like to combine them both.

    But I still love the looks of that Goth, and I'm sure I could get some
    great tones out of it. Anyway, nice collection of Epis on this thread, and
    I'll have to go drool over your other posts.

    One word more: If you haven't sold your Telecaster, don't.
    Tele tones are iconic, and versatile, and if the single coil hum is
    irritating, try getting the Electro Hamonix Hum DeBugger pedal.
    This one works, if my colleagues over at the Tone Rooms are to be
    believed. I'll probably get one myself. The reviews over there have
    been very thorough.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Welcome!
     
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    Welcome aboard!

    Now that you got the SG bug, doesn't it seem weird that more people don't play them? The SG Standard is Gibson's best selling guitar of all time, but it seems like most people playing Gibsons have Les Pauls. I'd say part of that is because there are so many different Les Paul models to spread out the sales among compared to the SG. Personally, I think the SG beats the Les Paul in every aspect, but I do prefer having the pickup switch away from the knobs.
     
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    Welcome. You have an interesting story and beautiful guitars.
     
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  8. SGfan84

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    Thanks for everyones input!

    Just a note about the Goth pickups... when I meant grittier I didn't mean that in a good way... perhaps because they are uncovered they don't have the same tone as the rest. But then again, I want this to be the brutal G400. Not sure if the stock bridge pup was swapped out but compared to my other SG's I don't like its raspy overdiven tone.. no matter how much I tinker with the pickup height and amps settings it just won't go away. The neck sounds like legit Epi neck Alnico humbucker, but again, there is something off about the tone and it is too hi gain if that is a way to explain it. I think its the lack of covers but it also crossed my mind that they may be slightly overwound pups on the Goth G400.

    In any case, an Alnico II covered set from Guitar Madness will be going into the G400 Worn soon, so maybe take those Epi humbuckers and throw them into the Goth? I also read a Duncan Custom 5 sounds great in SG's and it just so happens I have one laying around :D so we'll see what happens.
     
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    I wouldn't bother with the set as the Epi and GM neck pickups are basically the same thing. If you don't like the hot bridge pickup in the Worn (many don't) then just replace that with something more vintage output, like the Guitar Madness ones.

    Both the Worn and Goth come with Alnico Classics in the neck and Alnico Classic Plus pickups, which are wound hotter (14k) at the bridge.
     
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    SGfan84 New Member

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    Last time I checked the Alnico Classics have alnico V magnets. The G.M. set I'm looking to get has alnico II magnets, to get a similar sound from 490 or 57 classics like on Gibsons.

    I have a Jazz for the neck and a Custom for the bridge, just decided that's what's going into the Goth.
     
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    dub-setter Well-Known Member

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    if i remember right the alnico plus is called hot (CH)
    in the bridge.
    was a bit too hot for my taste also.. went to a dimarzio paf instead.
     
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    I thought I read somewhere that the Alnico Classics were A2, but I couldn't be sure. The specs on Epi pickups often seem shrouded in mystery for some reason. I guess at the price of those Guitar Madness pickups why not try a pair. :thumb:
     
  13. SGfan84

    SGfan84 New Member

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    Absolutely. So many things to try, and such little time!
     
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    You really got assimilated. Might as well, resistance is futile ...
    Nice sibblings you got and welcome to this family.
     
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    Thanks @DrBGood , you were a big inspiration and were right all along about these. Now if I can find a no veneer specimen and one of them new Classic Worn P90 models...
     
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    Well ... I'm honored.
    Where do you live ?
     
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    I reside in Ecuador, but originally from NY. Man do I miss Guitar Center (for the ease of trying and playing instruments, not so much to buy).

    Anyway, I think I have an affliction... all I ever want to see, hear or play is the SG. Glad to know I am not the only one around with this malady hehe
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Beautifull clone copies, are they all from China ?

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  19. SGfan84

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    Yes they are. Lovely clones at that.
     
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