New Pickups for my G400

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  1. Chenosaurus

    Chenosaurus Member

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    Hey everyone!

    i am currently in the process of replacing my stock pickups on my G-400. if i remember correctly it is currently rocking a pair of Alnico Classic PRO pickups.

    i usually play a variety of styles, mainly punk/grunge/psychedelic sounds (i love my modulation)
    and i incorporate feedback in my playing quite often

    my band especially plays punk with psychedelic elements. has anyone got any recommendations on a suitable set of pickups for these styles?

    i have had my eye on a set of SD Pearly Gates, or maybe SD Screaming Demons?...
    this is my first time replacing pick ups so i am not entirely clear on what combinations would work best
     
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    dub-setter Well-Known Member

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    if youre up for more rockin gain stuff
    then maybe a a pair of 490/rt can do the trick (gibson)

    more on the rock /bluesy side are the 57 classics and + (gibson)

    a heep cheaper
    but still okay sounding
    i found out lately are the wilkinson pick ups (zebra/pafs)




    and lots of others more.., of course:)
     
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  3. Chenosaurus

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    hm i have seen people talk about thesde 490/rts..

    think i'm gonna have to hit some demo videos of them!
     
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    dub-setter Well-Known Member

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    quite often installed as stock ones on various gibby sgs..
     
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  5. Chenosaurus

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    really? awesome. sounds like the perfect way to turn my Epi into a beast of a machine

    thank you for the suggestion :)
     
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    I like 490s but I would recommend listening to some Dirty Fingers Plus. More bang for your buck imo and they sound great clean or overdriven.
     
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    I had never heard of these. just looked them up. sounds like the type of pickup i am after!

    definitely going to look into these more...i have a feeling i may be sold already
     
  8. Chenosaurus

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    okay so im thinking of whacking a Dirty Fingers in the bridge position, and maybe a SD 59' or Pearly Gates in the neck position?

    either way im sure the dirty fingers would be perfect for screaming feedback and crushing chords!
     
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    Dimarzio super distortions in the bridge position have high output, but they're a bit bright. They can be paired with many neck pickups.
     
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    Probuckers ... I got a used set for ... $30.

     
  11. Ray

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    Hardrock and punkrock/grunge, you say? That exactly what SKADA (the band I'm in) play!

    Bare Knuckles Pickups has some awesome, handwired pu's thats not too pricey. Round 150 Euro.

    I got a brigde "Riff Raff" (Alnico 5, 8.2 kΩ) in my 2018 Standard and it really sounds great. IMO, it has way more defined mids and high than the ole 57 Classic, and its it slightly hotter, but not much, it sound very much "vintage PAF".

    If youre after Alnico 2 kind of pup, BNP's "The Mule" is very, very good after what I've heard, but with punk you need Alnico 5 IMO. (Think of Steve Jones and his white LP Custom. That axe most def had Alnico 5 pups, I'm guessing T-tops.)

    Otherwise, if you want that classic, round, kind-of-compressed-humbucker-tone you usually assosiate with an SG, get a pair of Gibson 57 Classics (not the "plus"-version, just the regular good old Classic 57).

    I know lots of players also love Dimarzios Super Distorition. Also Gibsons Dirty Fingers seem to have a loyal fanbase.

    Theres tons to choose from, and theres a lot of hype. People brag about Lollars, but they are superpricey, and IMO not worth the extra money.

    For hardrock/punk-ish stuff the BNP's Riff Raff is just great! It also cleans up real good as well!

    Just git it!

    https://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/pickup/humbucker/riff-raff
     
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  12. Chenosaurus

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    ah yeah i have heard a lot of good things about Bareknuckle. the other guitarist in my band picked up a set of Bareknuckle (not sure what the PuP was exactly)

    once i experiment some more with PuP heights etc. ill definitely check some more of those out. been doing a lot of research and you guys have given me solid suggestions and advise. guess i better get experimentin'!
     
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    I have a 2013 70's Tribute SG with Dirty Fingers, lots of signal, will easily overdrive an amp!
     
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    Here's a suggestion none of my colleagues has come up with yet:

    Keep your stock pickups, and swap out the wiring harness for a high
    quality set of components. You might decide your existing pickups are
    fine.

    In my experience, the weakest link of any Epiphone guitar is the wiring
    harness. Replace that with high quality switch, jack, pots and wiring
    and you might not need to buy new (expensive) pickups. You will want
    to do this anyway, when you replace pickups. Playing expensive pickups through a cheap Epi wiring harness is not a good idea. I say, do the
    wiring first, and play your stock p'ups through it. Listen carefully...

    My second suggestion is: If you decide that you MUST have new pickups,
    consider the "Golden Age" hum buckers from StewMac. I have one of the
    "Golden Age overwound Humbuckers" in my Epiphone Wilshire, and love the tone. The overwound pickup is in the bridge position. It has about
    9.5 Ohms resistance.

    https://www.stewmac.com/Pickups_and...Golden_Age_Parsons_Street_Hot_Humbuckers.html

    Other members above have given excellent recommendations, but many
    of those will end up costing more than your Epi guitar did. I don't deny
    that those are all great, but so are the Golden Age p'ups and they seem
    more in line with the Epiphone's value.
     
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  15. Chenosaurus

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    thankfully i have one more day of work before a nice week off for Christmas. plenty of time to mess around.

    Great tip about the wiring, i guess having great pickups with bad wiring is like having the best tyres in the world on a broken car!

    Never heard of these Golden Age ones...even more demo videos to watch i think haha

    Thank you everyone :)
     
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    Personally I really like the Epi Alnico Pros. As far as replacements, down here brands like SD and Dimarzio are expensive. So a couple more reasonably priced brands I like are Wilkinson and Vanson, which I found on Ebay and took a punt on.
     
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    Try adjusting the pickup height and use a fresh set of strings. If still not to your satisfaction, all the pickups mentioned in above posts are great recommendations.
     
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    I'll have to desagree with you on this Colonel.

    I have a hard time with the concept of a one foot piece of wire wrapped in cloth, transmitting a much better signal than another one wrapped in plastic, that will be heard by the human ear. It's really hard to wrap my head around that theory.

    Same with pots that are basically just voltage dividers. Getting a signal from point A to point B a milimeter away. Blind test required here please.

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. All of my Epiphones still retain their original electronics, except for pickups, and they sound amazing.

    Cap values (not brand) on the other hand can show a good difference because they do alter the signal and litterally cost pennies.

    The way a guitar is wired is also a nice change you can work on, like 50's wiring for example.

    Am I the only one not believing in the benefits of those "upgrades" ?
     
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  19. Chenosaurus

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    i am afraid i cant comment on the difference any upgrades will make yet, im a total upgrade noob! (for now...)
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Well said.
    There is a lot of misinformation and BS being spread on forums about “upgrading” wires, pots, caps, etc by people who do not have an understanding of basic electronics theory.
     
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