New project - hacked up (probably Korean) SG standard with binding

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  1. PixMix

    PixMix Well-Known Member

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    That's a great project! With a solid mahogany (no veneer) body and good pickups, it makes it worth it to not only pursue, but take it seriously. I am looking forward to seeing the progress.
     
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    Looks like a great guitar! But bring out the stripper man or you'll die sanding!
     
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    Like he said, this guy can really be of service.

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    But seriously ... If he's trying to salvage the cherry finish, stripper is not the solution.
     
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    Thought about strippers but the GF was against it :naughty:
    No seriously, it doesn't matter if it takes time, I am in no hurry, it is a project to keep me busy in between work and homeschooling the kids.
    I'm currently scraping the sides of the headstock and neck with a razorblade. Carefully stopping when I reach the cherry. Seems to work ok and faster and more accurate than sanding paper to keep the planes flat.
     
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    Happy to hear that. A little like an art restorer in a museeum or an archeologist with its tiny brush on a dinosaur bone.

    It well worth saving as much as possible in my opinion. That model doesn't come around often. But it seem at the time, a local music store must have bought the bulk of them, because for a five month period last year, they kept popping up around here.

    http://www.everythingsg.com/threads/bam-bam.36008/
     
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    I did follow that thread, but didn't put 2 and 2 together when I saw this one :hmm:
    My obsession with finding "old" Korean SGs started not so long ago.

    Back to the pictures. I don't see any seams around the heel or headstock so the neck really must be one piece.

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    nice project....!

    seems well build,
    its worth to spend some time on it...
     
  8. Franc

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    I can tell from the small "swirling" (?) in the original satin finish that whoever painted this, first sanded the guitar with a machine :shock:
     
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    Well, it's of course up to him but I would personally go for stripper rather than sandpaper, not only because it's easier but also because it's less likely to do damage. A cherry finish can always be stained on again whereas a mistake with sanding would be permanent. Now I haven't tried removing paint and wanting to save finish but if I ever would then I'd assume I couldn't get everything of with sandpaper and also assume that I would not be able to be sure not to sand into the cherry finish, or worse, into the wood. Hence the stripper tip. I would also assume, no matter which road I chose, that I'd have to refinish it.

    Perhaps this thread will show me what happens then but if it's going to be sanding all the way, I sure as hell hope I'm wrong.
     
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    Von Trapp, I see what you mean and I agree that with sanding there is that risk of sanding through the clear paint and damaging the wood, but firstly I use a sanding block to make sure that I sand in a flat plane. Secondly, that damage has already been done by the previous owner. I can already tell that someone sanded by hand, without a block and made dents in the wood. Some areas even look like someone used a file. So even though I am trying to preserve the cherry as much as possible, I am 99% sure that I need to refinish it in a solid color to hide areas that I need to fix. Still I want to see what the guitar looked like as much as possible and I don't want to make any more damage if I can prevent it.
     
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    Unfortunately, the previous owner has already sanded through the red on the back of the neck before painting. I think the white stuff was some sort of bondo. 3F75AEDE-5118-405A-AC06-B23C7972B8C4.png 984E3F0B-C943-4F64-AE6A-381657858315.png
     
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    Well, you should of course do whatever you're comfortable with. If you are referring to the white coat underneath the blue I would venture a guess that it's primer. There's a particular kind of primer that feels almost rubbery and that leaves a very smooth surface but is nigh on impossible to sand. I think it's going to be fine in some opaque color, there are too many cherry red SG's in this world anyway...
     
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    I know this will hurt some people :io:, but the bevels had already been sanded in places and they are uneven as though someone put a file to it...
    So, without a doubt, I will have to do some reshaping of the bevels and curves. So why not go for that that razor sharp look of a vintage SG (like for instance Iommi's Monkey). Again taking it slow with 80 grid sandpaper stuck to a piece of PVC pipe to keep al the curves.
    Does someone know of any templates that show the edges of the bevels of a nice old SG that I could tape on the guitar so I know how far and where to shave of some wood?

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    like that natural look of the last pics...;)
    i just would sand it down with no paint and put on some thin lacer.
     
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    Nice, it has the Gibson style headstock construction with the wings... cool.
     
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    If you are sure to repaint it opaque. I would for sure attemps to reshape the bevels like the best of them.

    This looks good to my untrained vintage Gibson eye.

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    That's what I'm saying, this is pretty close to a Gibson.
     
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    What wings?
     
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