NGD 2003 61 RI

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  1. Fumble fingers

    Fumble fingers Member

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    Picked this up today supposed to be a 61 RI with Classic 57’s , let me know what’s right and wrong with it

    Thanks Eric
     

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  2. arcticsg

    arcticsg Well-Known Member

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    Congrats, she's purty! Happy NGD! :smile:

    The '61 reissues are one of my favorites. Your 2003 was the last year for the ABR1 bridge.

    Also, your nickel hardware looks great! It has faired way better than mine on my 2005.
     
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  3. Lunacy the Faded

    Lunacy the Faded Active Member

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    Wow! Congrats!

    There is a whole lot of good in those pictures, looks like only thing changed was a capacitor inside the wiring cavity. Nothing wrong with the guitar unless you mean to nitpick all vintage accurate details, which I dont know
     
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  4. Fumble fingers

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    Glad to hear it’s legit ! I was expecting Gibson stamped inside the pickups scared me that and the straight blade adjusting screws for pickup height I figured they were changed out , I do have the original capacitor in the case
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Very nice!
    I had a 2009 SG '61 Reissue in the past and the pup height adjustment screws were slotted as well.
     
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  6. papagayo

    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    Welcome with this Gibson SG
     
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  7. Fumble fingers

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    Good to know the pickup screws are slotted!!
    I should have taken pictures how it was set up when I picked it up , everything was jacked up on one side , low on the other side including stop bar , saddles, pickups , pole screws cranked in way counter sunk into the cover , took about a hour and a half to get a good base line setting
     
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  8. Col Mustard

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    Welcome to ETSG, and congratulations on an excellent choice of guitar.
    Might as well get the best...

    Yours looks legitimate to me... I also noticed that the control cavity looks like it
    had been modded. Here's the stock wiring on my '07 Gibbie SG special:
    Fig 07 Original Wiring.jpg
    Note the braided covers on the cables to the p'ups, note the square caps,
    note the yellow wires to the pots and the black shielding on parts of
    the wiring, note the bare ground wire and the initials of the guy that built
    this harness, including the date.

    The Gibson '57 Classic pickups have the "Patent Applied For"
    stickers on the back, so yours look correct. The '57 classic pickups are Gibson's
    attempt to recreate the tones of the past. They worked really hard to come up with
    the '57s, and I bought a pair to install in my less expensive '07 SG special.
    I'm glad I did.

    The '57s ring like a bell, neck or bridge or both. I personally love the tone.
    But you can tell by how the former owner set his guitar up, tone is in the ear
    of the beer holder. I've heard the '57s described as muddy, tinny, harsh or
    weak. NONE of that is true. It's just whatever signal chain you run them
    through that makes you think that. ...or NOT think that.

    My signal chain works fine... and my Gibson SG with the '57s sounds awesome.
    I chose those because the '61 had them, which cost twice as much as my '07 SG
    faded special. Gibson '57s and SGs are made for each other.

    IMHO the Gibson SG '61 ReIssue is one of the best guitars Gibson ever
    developed. Modding one seems like an adventure in futility to me.
    Why mod what's already the best? *grins

    Yours looks lovely.
     
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  9. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Awesome!
    We both have SG that were wired by the same person. Note the initials...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    seems like he worked at Nashville
    in the wiring department
    for a few years. He did a good job
    on mine.

    How many a day did he make?
    The world wonders...
     
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  11. Steve D

    Steve D Well-Known Member

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    Are you worried that it's a chinese fake or something? It looks real to me but the one foolproof test I've seen is to check if the binding on the neck extends up to the frets with "nibs". Chibsons are getting really good at faking the details but I've never seen one that has that yet.

    That said, I doubt they'd fake a '61 reissue. Lots more money in making a fake Jimmy Page Les Paul or the like. Someone may have made some changes but the tuners look right, the pickups look right, the bridge and tailpiece hardware don't seem obviously out of place but there are foundry marks on the bottom that would tell the tale. I forget the name of the maker that Gibson uses but I could look it up easily enough. Col Mustard made some points about the control cavity but I personally don't see any red flags of anything on the guitar as being swapped out. It does look like one tuner is off kilter (G String) but I suspect that's just an optical illusion from the fact that the guitar isn't angled dead perpendicular to the camera lens.
     
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  12. Fumble fingers

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    The binding does cover the ends of the frets
     

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