NGD - Firebird

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  1. No_Class

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    Hell yeah ! Yesterday i finally got my 2018 firebird standard. Love the sound from the minibuckers and the guitar just feels amazing. I think that you either hate or love the bird. I love it!!! _20181020_164446.JPG
     
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    Congratulations! That's gorgeous.

    I never used to like the Firebird much - always preferring the angular lines of the Explorer. But in recent years that's changed, and I'm really into the look now, especially solid colour finishes like ebony or pelham. Plus, those mini humbuckers have a really cool and distinctive tone.
     
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  3. Retrop

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    Love the sound of Firebirds, congrats on the awesome acquisition and happy new guitar day!!!
     
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  4. Logan

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    Love my Firebird. That ebony is a beauty :thumb:
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  5. Lynurd Fireburd

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    I'm with you all the way. We need more pics though.

    ...& they're not minis. They're Firebird pickups. 2 different animals.
     
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    I know what you mean about being different, but they're still mini humbuckers, at least, according to Gibson:

    "A pair of bright, cutting mini-humbucking pickups help distinguish this Firebird guitar as a true standout and rising star."

    ...they're just different mini humbuckers. :)
     
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  7. No_Class

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    So, this guitar was sent back. It was impossible to get a decent setup on it. Turned out it had a twisted neck. Actually, this was the second firebird i sent back in 2 weeks because of twisted neck!!! The first one was so bad they just sent me a new one immediately. And now the same problem with the second one. WTF!!! Maybe they get it right the 3rd time ....
     
  8. Colnago

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    That’s odd. Good luck with #3!
     
  9. syscokid

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    Wow... :shock:

    Are the neck's of the neck-thru Firebirds a single piece of wood?
     
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    9 pc mahogany walnut mahogany. Still, incredible Craftsmanship.
     
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    Thanks for confirming. This is what I thought at first, but when I just now researched the '18 Firebirds, any description of the neck does not mention multi-ply construction. The info just states: "mahogany neck". Even the Custom Shop models goes both ways: Some are multi piece, some are all mahogany. If I had a choice, I would definitely go with the multi's.
     
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  12. Paul G.

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    Wrong tuners, wrong neck construction, 2 twisted necks. If this one isn't perfect (or even if it is), I would go for a 2010-2017 version, used or NOS.

    I hate being that guy, and usually I'm not, but this time I'm concerned.
     
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    Yep. Sounds like something has happened to that batch of guitars.
     
  14. Lynurd Fireburd

    Lynurd Fireburd Active Member

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    Wait...

    What's up with those tuners? When did Gibson spec those on a current FB?

    & PaulG mentions different neck construction. Outside of the Studio all Gibson FB's of this orientation are thru.
    *edit - Well well... Had no idea this model existed. Learn something new everyday.
    My question is for that msrp price why deviate from the tuners? Does the headstock have the step?

    Is that an Epi with a G trc? Not hatin'. Mines a Chinese copy. (disregard)

    Here's a lullaby with a Firebird/ SG/Ric trifecta.
     
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  15. No_Class

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    This headstock and tuners was introduced in 1965. Don't agree it's "wrong"
     
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    "Reverse" Firebirds came with Banjo tuners. Post 2010 they used Steinbergers. I have both and they're fine. Having regular 6 on a side tuners installed upside down is one step too far for me.
     
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    What am I missing in this conversation?

    You mention "wrong neck construction" when the op makes no mention of it. How do you know this? Its a solid color.

    I've seen that '65. I think it's interesting.

    Guitars evolve. Somewhat. I'm in the camp that Firebirds have Firebird or P90 pickups. I'd never refer to them as minis because they share the same footprint. They're 2 different builds internally. Firebirds have Steinburger/Kluson tuner banjo style but can be foregiven to an extent as the PG link clearly show the Firebird existing with 6 inline at 1 point.

    All this uncertainty based on 1 poor pic made me think it was an Epi until I looked it up.

    The biggest blasphemy, to me, is Gibson's unwillingness to put an authentic spec FB pickup in their FB. Epi did it beautifully in the Treasure model.

    anyhoo...
     
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  19. Paul G.

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    In Gibson's website, the specifications for the neck on the 2018 refer to "mahogany" as opposed to earlier models and 2019 model which refer to "9-ply mahogany/walnut".

    Right from the source.
     
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  20. Lynurd Fireburd

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    Ah... Nice work.
     

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