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  1. Gahr

    Gahr Well-Known Member

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    A color touch-up might be in order here and there, yes. Thanks for the tip.

    Since you're asking:

    The back:
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    Front:
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    The crack:
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    Checking on the back:
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    Nice, dark fretboard with worn frets!:
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    Not as deep as on a '61, but still fairly deep bevels in '65:
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    Headstock. The Schaller tuners that were on the guitar messed it up quite a bit. I still prefer the "originals", i.e. repro Klusons. Brass nut. Note the "extra" slot for the B string! The blood is from yours truly; I drew blood changing the damn strings...:
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    That back of the headstock. Shiny new Klusons. Lacquer checking on the neck:
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    Gut shot. All original electronics as far as I can tell:
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    Clearly visible pot code: CTS, from the 19th week of 1965:
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    Back is great, almost one piece. Everything is great !

    Right idea, wrong felt pen color :rofl:

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  3. Wildeman

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    Well mine got the headstock broke off once, the neck broke off at the heel once, routed for a strat pickup at neck, routed for a super distortion, 4 toggle switches and oversprayed with some kinda soft urethane goop:thumb:
    It was my first electric guitar and all that **** happened before i got it, ive had it for 30 years and fixed and repainted it, it is a killer Jr now. 20170320_103753.jpg Screenshot_2018-12-03-03-59-23-1.png
     
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    Very nice. Congrats!
     
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    Nice Jr, :smile:

    Screw a jack plate in the control cavity to reinforce the mahogany.

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    Better use short screws
     
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    Meh... Your guitar is not some tart, she's a rock machine, so no need to dress her up as lamb, imho.
     
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    Yeah, a longtime buddy of mine, Johnny Lowebow, luthier from Memphis, he has one of these with the Les Paul script on the peghead. I've got a wide-guard Junior that I bought from him at his shop, Xanadu Music.
    The thing about these is, Gibson put their best foot forward on the build quality, and also that they have a tone that's not found in any other Gibson. Enjoy it in good health! I know I would.
     
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    Sweet P90 SG!
    that is some serious fretwear.
    I wonder if there is enough to level and crown?

    that jack area looks like it could use reinforcement, how much flex is there with a cord plugged in?
    Maybe just add a poker chip?
    poker chip or large washer on each side and a longer barrel jack?

    Are you using an angled cord?
     
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    I'm always using an 90° angled plug, both on my SGs and Les Pauls. There is no flex that I can tell. The crack has been glued fairly well it seems; it just doesn't look very good.

    Regarding the frets, I don't really know. But since there is no buzzing and I love the action and setup right now, I'm not going to do anything to it yet.

    The only thing I might do to it is to anchor the strings in the wraparound bridge and remove the Vibrola, just to see how it works. I hardly ever touch the it, so it's there simply because it is an original feature at the moment.
     
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    Actually, they didn't start beveling any less deep until after the change to the Batwing. Here's a '61:

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    You can see it doesn't quite touch the pickguard either.

    Even the early Batwings weren't much less deep, Here's a '66:

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    Ok, it might just be down to individual variations, then. Anyway, the bevels on my ‘65 junior are a bit smaller than on what I’ve seen on 61s and 61 reissues.
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    There is definitely a lot of variation, since beveling was done by hand back then. I've seen at least one where they must have hired a new guy who royally screwed it up!
     
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    I bet that guitar sounds real good ... How would you compare that old P90 and the overall sound in your '65 SG jr to more recent P90 equipped SGs?
     
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    Honestly I don't have a whole lot to compare it to. It has more clarity than my Epiphone SG Special, and it is hotter than both the stock P90 and the TysonTone I had in the Les Paul junior I just sold. The SG junior sounds rounder and fuller than the Les Paul jr did, but at least some of that has to do with the SG's pickup being placed slightly further away form the bridge than the pickup on the LP jr. Honestly, I might not be able to pick it out in a blind test, but everything just feels great, sounds great and looks great with the guitar, so it's all good.:dude:

    I kind of look at guitars the same way I look at beer (I'm a brewer). The sound naturally is the most important thing in a pickup. just as taste and aroma is the most important thing in a beer. However, if there is something about the guitar, the looks, the feel, the mojo if you will, that makes me like the guitar more, that will also affect how I perceive the sound. In beer terms this to me is the equivalent of how the beer looks, the setting in which you drink it, the company you're in, the nice weather, etc. These might be purely psychological factors, but they enhance the whole experience of playing (and drinking beer!). And thank god for that! Without the mojo factor, guitars would be a whole lot less fun.
     
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    Mojo for president !
     
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    Cool to hear youre happy with it, and that that old P90 is that lively!
    Regarding guitar sounds, I think listening to recordings done with proper equipment and miking usually is an accurate way of telling/showing a guitars range and how it sounds. (combined with an amp). Placebo is for amateurs ;) Kidding .. I totally see your point, of course!;)
     
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