P90's for SGJ 2013

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    loicsans New Member

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    Hello there, it's my first post here, I own 2 SG's one SGJ 2013 and one SG standard 2017.
    I find now that I would like to get a more drastically different sound from the SGJ 2013.
    I was wondering if someone could advise me on what P90's to get that would fit effortlessly into the SGJ 2013.
    It's the first time I'll do this to a guitar and am really not sure what to get.

    Thanks for the help!
     
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    Welcome loicsans.
    You will get some suggestions for expensive boutique pups as for dirt cheap ones. What you will be looking for is a P94. It's a slightly different pup than a P90 that will fit a humbucker route.

    I myself tried both ends of the spectrum and found that they don't differ that much one from another, thus the price asked for brand names is not, in my opinion, justified.

    You can hear what I'm talking about on this shoot out between Gibson P94 and the $38 Guitar Madness version of it.

     
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    Hi DrBGood thanks for the reply.
    Indeed I see what you mean, the ratio price / sound difference is very unbalanced.

     
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    Probably very similar to the $38 Guitar Madness ones.
     
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    Merci, I just pulled the trigger on those as the guitar madness reverb shop is empty, I'll report my findings once I get them.
     
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    Welcome to ETSG!
     
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    Welcome to ETSG. Will you be rewiring the SGJ with new pots and capacitors or soldering to the pots in the circuit board? In either case, when soldering make sure your pots are turned to 0 to avoid heat damage to the conductive parts.
     
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    I never knew this. Thanks for yet another nugget of wisdom Biddlin!
     
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    Thanks for the tip. I have not read up yet on the procedure and I am a bit worried about this.
    Would you advise me to get new pots and capacitors?
     
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    Could you just cut the pup lead, make a joint there and shrink tape it ?
     
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    If you want to foul up your OEM pickups, that works, too. Those little connectors are not easy to replace and I understand the color code is non standard, too.
     
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    Hmm ... forgot about the connectors.
     
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    Hello there,
    So I just received the pick up and a new wiring kit from Allparts.com
    The diagram shows one wire being solder, my 2 made in China pickups have though 2 wires, one red and a white being tied together with the bare wire (I assume this is to ground).
    Question is what goes where?
     

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    Red goes to the center terminal on the pot and the white plus drain goes to any convenient ground. Most people try to solder it to the back of the pot but you likely don't have enough heat in your soldering iron. In your case, see if you can tack it to the pot lead that is bent back and soldered to the back of the pot. You can get that smaller area hot enough.

    Tom
     
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    Good idea Tom, never thought of doing that.
     
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    Thanks Tom!

    Although the diagram shows the red should be solder to the left terminal of the pot the center goes to the switch, Does that matter?
     
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    The left terminal of pot is the input and goes to the hot wire of pickup. The center terminal of the pot is the output and goes to the switch lug of the selected pickup. The right terminal of the pot is ground.
     
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    Perfect, thank you, so I should just follow the diagram.
     
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