pot and cap value on Derek Trucks SG

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    Jono-1uk New Member

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    I have an SG copy set up in open E for Slide ..
    Anyone know the value please of the pots and caps in Derek Trucks SG please?


    Jon
     
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    Ok Thanks

    I read a thread earlier that said he swapped the caps out for a different value ..

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    Oh, if that's the case then ignore what I said. I'm no Trucks expert, I just know he played a '61 RI and his signatures had the same pots and caps as a stock '61 RI.
     
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    i would imagine 500k pots but its the caps i heard are different ..can anyone perhaps pop of the hatch of their Sig guitar and tell me the cap value please?
     
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    I have a 2014 Derek Trucks Signature. The stock caps are .022 and the pots are CTS 500K. Mind you, he doesn't really play his signature SG much. But I don't think he tinkers much with his guitars, so I'd be very surprised if the values are different in any of his SGs, really.
     
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    ok from what i can gather Derek may put a .10 cap in the SG what difference to a .22 would that mak to tone?
     
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    Yeah, lack of caffeine excuse. I actually swapped out for higher values on my Epiphone LP Standard's bridge pickup to get a little darker.
     
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    sorry ..so lower the number darker the tone through the range?
     
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    Will not make a sonic difference when tone control is set to 10.

    When rolling back the tone control...
    Higher value cap = Darker tone
    Lower value cap = Brighter tone

    Pots are inverse of Caps...
    Higher value pot = Brighter tone
    Lower value pot = Darker tone
     
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    According to info from around 2007 he swapped a .022 cap in his guitar for a .010. This would make the sound brighter. But then again he ran his Super Reverb with a lot of treble. At the time he was using a 2000 ยด61 Reissue with '57 Classics. I'm not sure what guitar he is currently using, but I have a feeling it is still the Dickey Betts SG he got from Galadrielle Allman. I don't think he has done anything to that one.

    I saw the Tedeschi Trucks Band in Oslo last week, it was hard to tell exactly, but he seemed to be using the Dickey Betts model still.
     
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    "he swapped a .022 cap in his guitar for a .010. This would make the sound darker."

    i thought Lower value cap = Brighter tone and .10 is lower then .22 ?
     
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    also whats an easy way to tell which SG he is using?
     
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    Sorry! Thanks for pointing it out. You are right. I guess I had just read Biddlin's comment and somehow wrote what he wrote without thinking about it. A lower value cap would make for a brighter tone. I think Derek Trucks used to run his tone pot set very low, I haver read somewhere he set it at around 2 or 3. Kind of makes you wonder why you would want to change to a brighter cap only to turn down the pot...
     
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    He has said himself that he tends to pick one guitar and stick with it. He used to play a 1990 '62 Reissue, then a 1990s Standard. He then moved on to the mentioned 2000 '61 Reissue. In 2012 He moved to the 2011 Dickey Betts model, but used his signature model a few times as well. The way to tell them apart I guess is that the Dickey Betts has a pickguard and Grover tuners, while the 2000 '61 Reissue and the signature model don't have a pickguard. And the 2000 has some autographs on it.
     

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