Preferred Locking Tuners (Kluson style w/ Pearl knobs)?

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  1. BenTobith

    BenTobith Member

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    Hi everyone!

    I'm looking for opinions on your preferred locking tuners (for those using them) to replace Kluson style, vintage look tuners (but with collars and screw in bushings, so for a "modern" instrument).

    I've used Kluson's own Revolution series tuners on my SG Standard. They work great, but they are a bit bulky — which might not be avoidable for locking tuners — and the most annoying part is the plastic/pearl knobs are sort of transparent, and so you can see the screw. They're more of a milky white than the opaque, greenish color of the originals. And unfortunately, I can't find an option to replace them that isn't that way (only metal ones).

    But ... I'd rather not lose the original look as much as I can. I've looked at Grover, Gotoh, and Hipshot, though I'm not sure they have locking options that are in this Kluson style, or with the correct (or close to correct) plastic/pearl knobs. Hipshots are the most "out there" style wise, and just too different.

    Are there other brands or options out there I'm missing?
     
  2. skelt101

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    What about Sperzel? They are lightweight (for locking tuners), and easy to install (especially with the EZ mount). Their #2 button (while not an exact match) is in the same vein style-wise, and comes in pearl and ivory looking material. :thumb:
     
  3. BenTobith

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    I think I stopped looking at those because it was all on a European website and I didn't expect to be able to easily order them for the US right now.

    Do you happen to know which model # or name to look for?
     
  4. BenTobith

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    Oh wait, I'm stupid. I was thinking of Schaller..
     
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    I wouldn't fit anything other than Graph Tech Ratio tuners. Once you're tried them you'll wonder why it took so long for anyone to come up with the idea. Each string has a specific gearing, so each tuner feels the same across all the strings. What's more, one full revolution of the peg raises or lowers the pitch a whole tone, so you can drop to E flat very quickly as each sting is in the right ball park with one turn.

    They're also really well made and easy to fit, with plates that are designed to fit without drilling new holes.
     
  6. BenTobith

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    Not really sure about the buttons on those. A bit too fat.
     
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    Those look really nice. I just don't want the metal buttons, I'd prefer to keep the vintage look.
     
  8. skelt101

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    To each his own. Here’s a set on my SG Special:
    B280D6CF-756B-4AAC-A4AF-066B543E700A.jpeg
     
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    Not to say they look bad, but I'm going for more of a match.
     
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    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    I have a set of KLUSON Revolution (no lock) on my SG Std, they are fantastic. Light, high ratio, smooth tuning...
    Locking version is available:

    SG Standard TBK 87.jpg
     
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    Got a guide or video on your method?
     
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    I ended up putting these tuners in my SG. They are amazing quality, very solid. Way more stable than the Kluson Revolutions I was using before. And the color of the button is more historically accurate and pleasing to the eye.

    The only downside was how scary it was to get the bushings in place. They are too snug to just drop in, so you have to do some careful filing around the inside top part of the hole and use a rubber mallet to actually get them in place. Was the most terrifying work I’ve done on my Gibson...
     
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    Any pictures of the finished product? :h5:
     
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    Sorry, but I’m not seeing the locking version of the SD510 on their website. This is exactly what I’m looking for to replace the locking Grovers with stainless buttons on my Les Paul Standard. I bought some cheap plastic vintage-looking keystone buttons on the web, but like OP’s, you can see the black screws running through them, which kind of bugs me.

    Do these Gotohs have the locking thumbwheels, or am I missing something?
     

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