Refretting an 84 Standard, what size frets?

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  1. Coal

    Coal New Member

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    Hi,
    I'm refretting a 1984 Standard. What size should I go with? I have no clue how to make this decision.
    Help please!
    Thanks!
     
  2. Joncaster

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    Get hold of a vernier caliper and go measure some frets of a guitar you like the feel of, maybe?

    My SG frets are about 0.086" wide and 0.035" high, but those are the 'low' frets of early 2019. I love them.
    Just low enough to feel super fast, but I pay with a medium-high action, so bending is super easy.

    I think a good middle ground is probably around 0.095" x 0.047"
     
  3. Biddlin

    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    I would use Dunlop 6130 fret wire. .106 X .036
     
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  4. Joncaster

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    Yeah, I could get along with 6130, it's pretty much what my Tele's frets have been crowned down to over the years (originally 6150's .100 X .044, down to .032 now)
    Very comfy, worn-in feel at that width. But I don't think they'll handle another crown, that'll get a bit too low.
    So if I chose 6130's it would be Stainless I think

    Also been thinking of something like 6125's or Jescar 47095...
    I'm dreading having to refret my Tele's maple board:(

    Good luck Coal!
     
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    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    "You'll never regret it and you'll never refret it!"
    SS frets are forever, aside from being tougher on strings (you'll see dent's in your nickel/steel slinkys) they cost more because your luthier will wear-out nippers and files and his hands doing he job. Honestly, if it was my main player, I'd consider getting a Warmouth neck. The up-charge for SS frets is only $20, you can custom design the neck and keep the original neck in case you ever sell the guitar.
     
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  6. Col Mustard

    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    I regard fretwork as "skilled work" and would never
    dream of trusting my frets to anyone who had no experience,
    or who was trying to learn how to be a luthier.

    When I need fretwork done, I take my instrument to the best luthier
    I know of, and I pay him to do what he knows how to do, and what he's
    got the proper tools to do. What I get for my money is a guitar that
    plays like a dream, and enhances my music.

    My frets and my music are worth this.

    I'm trying to maintain as a guitarist and a bassist and a singer-songwriter,
    so I don't want to learn luthiery too. I'm happy to pay a guy who is an
    expert, because I'm not, and I prefer to spend my time working in an
    arena where I actually am an expert, and where I know my efforts can
    be rewarded. If I get my guitar set up by an expert, I have learned enough
    to keep it that way. But when the harsh winters or the hot summers take a
    toll on my guitars, and I need fretwork, I prefer to put my treasured instrument
    in the hands of someone who knows his stuff.

    Like taking my lady to an excellent doctor, and nothing less.
    Just my humble opinion.

    Also, here's a motto they teach you in Luthier School:
    PRACTICE ON SCRAP.

    This means: if you want to learn fretwork, buy a garage sale beater, and
    try and refret that. Don't experiment or have "learning experiences" on your
    fine Gibson. Save that job for after you graduate.

    Sorry if I seem bluff... but the size of your frets really depends on your
    style, and how you bend strings, and the gauge of string you prefer.
    A good luthier will consider all these things before refretting your guitar.
    Or else he will give you the generic frets, like the factory does.
     
  7. Dave

    Dave Well-Known Member

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    I had my 1986 SG62 refretted with 6100 SS frets. It plays amazing (buttah) and the SS frets will never wear out. I had it refretted about 5 or 6 years ago and there isn't a wear mark on them. In fact, I've never even had to polish them.

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    arcticsg Well-Known Member

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    Beautiful SG! :smile:
     
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  9. realcooldude

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    That's a beautiful guitar. I love big 6100 fretwire. Years ago I read someone refer to it as railroad ties lol.

    I don't mind the medium jumbo, or whatever the standard fret wire Gibson used on my faded SG, but if I ever need a refret I'm going with 6100. I've never worn any frets down bad enough to warrant a refret or even a crown. I've always used extra light strings and I guess I've got a soft touch.
     
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  10. Dave

    Dave Well-Known Member

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    I also love 6100 wire. I use 008 strings and also play with a light touch.
    That's what works for me.
     

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