Discussion in 'Tone Zone' started by hambucker, Jan 2, 2005.
Are most SGs finished in poly? I can't find any info on this.
All Gibson, even the SG Special-faded are laquer. That faded stuff doesn't look like laquer, but it is.
There were a FEW Gibsons made - other models - that were finished in poly. Gotta look thru Gibsons discontinued model section at http://www.gibson.com
The Epis are all poly.
Welcome abroad Hambucker ! All of Gibson finishes are of the Lacquer variety. Be it Nitrocellulose or Acrylic Lacquer. Fender uses "poly' on all models except if it comes from the Custom Shop,than its Lacquer.
side note: Fender and Gibson's "Custom Colors " are actually acrylic lacquer with a Nitrocellulose Clear Coat. Epiphones are done in poly.
Hope this answers your question!
Brucewayne - these two Gibsons (at least) have poly finishes.
Les Paul with poly finish: (The Paul SL)
Les Paul with poly finish (Les Paul Special SL)
And in addition to the Custom Shop Fender's, the entire "American Vintage" line has a nitro laquer finish, two examples
52 RI Telecaster, nitro laquer
62 RI Jazzmaster, nitro laquer
Anyone know about the SG-X? I seems like bsically a Special with only one humbucker. I can't tell from the scratches.
I know, I ask a lot of questions, but what are the differences between poly, notro and acrylic? Is nitro better than acrylic?
Polyurethane is one type of finish that can be air drying or catalytically hardened. The finish changes its nature as it dries from being a liquid to a hard(ish) plastic. There are some very hard poly finishes out there (ie, Fender factory finish, gunstock finishes, etc). Poly finishes look ok, buff out ok, but are hard to touch up as the finish does not melt into itself. That is, once its dry, its dry pretty much forever.
Laquer, nitrocellulose or acrylic, both are finishes that will melt with laquer thinner... and if you need to touch one up, they will melt into each other and make the work pretty easy actually. Laquer is very hard, shrinks as it dries, and tends to crack under extreme temperture changes. Minor dings and imperfections are very easy to repair. Nitro laquer will yellow quite a bit with exposure to UV light.
For more info go to Guitar Re-Ranch's website.
Thanks for the info, I was only really familiar with nitro and poly. I'll check reranch.com.
Here is the Guitar ReRanch link:
I checked that site out, very informative. Thanks guys.
The guitar to the left is bare mahogany (no finish). I noticed that when you waxed the
faded SG you achieved startling results. I was (am) wondering what brand/type of
wax you used to achieve the aforementioned startling results.
What brand and type of wax did you use on the faded SG to achieve such startling results?
poly sucks! like having your speakers wearing a condom!
Burst - nice to see you participating! I wouldn't say poly sucks. It has its place ya know. I cant say I would choose it over laquer, but sometimes you have no choice.
Tony - Butchers Boston Polish, a very stiff paste wax. Terrible for the laquer if I ever want do a refin, but if it got to that it would be a stripdown anyway, so I'm not too concerned (ie, life for today attitude on it)
it has it's place but not on instruments!!! manufacturers use it coz it's easier to work with and it resists dents and scratches during shipping, it even resists cracking during temp changes. but it does suck tone! no use having fine grade tonewood covered in plastic! :wink: nice to be back charlie! thanks. 8)
So like a poly finish would make a difference on a Les Paul as it crackles in the fire? HAA!
yeah it would burn like melted plastic! 8)
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