SG neck dive solution

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  1. Dale

    Dale Well-Known Member

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    this is my solution as well.
     
  2. Thumpalumpacus

    Thumpalumpacus Well-Known Member

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    Wider suede strap, no problem.
     
  3. papagayo

    papagayo Well-Known Member

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    I' ve got one SG Special and two SG Standard without neck dive, awesome guitars !

    My SG concerned with neck dive is a 2015 Standard Ltd Anniversary but without the GForce that' s perfect. Killer SG

    My Epiphone G400 was awful, many issues, too much
     
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    You're always asking if it neck dives!
     
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    Finish schminish
     
  7. BlackStandard

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    I've been an SG guy for 30+ yrs...never had a problem with neck dive until yesterday. I purchased a 2019 Standard HP blueberry fade online...took it out of the box and was shocked... the guitar is so incredibly unbalanced.. it actually points down to the floor . The neck strap button has been moved from behind the neck to the upper cutaway... changes the entire feel...just hangs wrong... mailing it back today... too bad...the guitar is absolutely beautiful.. plays great when you sit down.
     
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    So that shoots that "solution" down.
    My N-225 has the same button placement and I suspect it exacerbates rather than improves balance issues.
     
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    What's that ?

    If they had moved it to the tip maybe. As it is on that picture, it's even further back than on the heel. DOH !

    Nice big heavy metal tuners sure don't help the cause.
     
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    Oh yeah, that would make a lot luthiers very happy for the repair work on the broken horns, too.:naughty:
     
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    I think the move has more to do with the neck joint than balance improvements. The 'fast access' joint (daft name) might be useful on a Les Paul, but it's bloody pointless on an SG! I can't recall if Gibson claimed the new location helped balance, but even if they did, I doubt it was the reason. But I'm surprised by the HP: from 2017 they made them thicker (heavier) and gave them a maple cap to improve balance - and claimed it made a difference.

    I have two Standards, one with each of the button locations and there's no difference in neck dive - but there is a difference in the way the instrument hangs against your body - which is better will depend on the size of your stomach... :)

    I also have an SG Supreme with the button on the back of the upper horn - this has less neck dive than the other two, despite the larger headstock and heavy Grovers - but it does have a maple cap - so perhaps that helps with the balance.
     
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    Forearm on the upper bout while you play. What neck dive?
     
  13. jtees4

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    Just a heads up. I don't know if they are still around BUT....Vox used to make a small metal thingie to put the strap on the upper horn for their double cut guitars which had horrible neck dive, way more than any SG....I know because I owned an SDC55. Great guitar made unusable by terrible neck dive. I can't find a link right now, but I will post if I do. It basically was a strap button on the end of a 1" or so extender with a vee notched on the bottom so that it went right on the tip of the horn with no damage. I believe i first saw it because Chris Robinson was using it at the time, he was and maybe still is a Vox guy.
     
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    This thingie ?


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    I borrowed one of those Vox guitars, in a single cut, for over a month. I could never pull a good sound out of the pickups. They're supposed to do everything, but they do so without any body or color to the tone, they were thin and anemic. Everything about that guitar I hated: weight, neck, shape, electronics, etc. Too bad, I really wanted to like it, could have made a real good trade for it.

    Not entirely true ... I loved the wraparound. A piece of art by itself.
     
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    Are there screws longer than ¾" in your world ? :cool:
     
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    None that I'd care to twist into my SGs' horns, thanks.:cool:
     
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    Thanks. Very close to the same ones I saw. I believe the one's I saw were just a tad longer, but definitely the same idea! And I agree on the bridge, I loved mine. The pickups sounded good to me, but there was not much variance between all the positions....15 in all I believe on the SCD55. This was mine:
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    Ya know Black, that's just a gotdang shame bruddah.. a gotdang shame. These newer HP SG's are the best thing that's happened to the SG model line in years. Plays like a beast & schexy lookin as sin. But if it feels crappy hanging off your neck then I guess ya gotta say wtf'nHell & send her back!

    It's just a gotdang shame is all.
    Besides, it wasn't Black anyway so.. fvk it.
     
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    Lunacy the Faded Active Member

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    I took the strap button off the back of the neck and put it on the beveled back edge of the horn tip
     
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