SG Special 2016 T P-90

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  1. DrBGood

    DrBGood Well-Known Member

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    Right now, without looking, you'd ask me what's written on any of my guitar's headstocks that I play every day, and I couldn't tell you for sure.
     
  2. cerebral gasket

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    This SG Special T has fueled the GAS for a second one.
    Found another used one stock with mini-humbuckers finished in satin ebony.
    If the mini-humbuckers don’t work out, P-90’s will drop right in.

    Maybe try a set of Kinman P-90's.
    Anyone have any experience with those?
     
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    I dunno about the Kinman., but ...

    You want bells to sing, go with Sanford Magnetic 9022. They're almost too clean. But you can dirty up anything if you want, the contrary is less obvious.

    You want raunchy à la Leslie West, go with Tyson Tone 57's Wraptail.

    But both can do ... both ... differently.
     
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    Yes... Me!

    I have 4 guitars with P90s, with 3 different brands of P90s: Kinman, Seymour Duncan, and Gibson. Love them all. The Kinman's are extra special...
    Their version of a P90 is spot on, but with their proprietary zero-hum technology. They are expensive and deeper in size. Also heavier in weight. Research Kinman's website for accurate dimensions and other very useful facts.
    If you can get past the price point, you will not be disappointed.
     
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  5. cerebral gasket

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    I will look into the Sanfords and Tysons.
    Starting with a clean or medium output pup has always made sense to me.
    Most modern amps have enough gain on tap to add enough dirt.

    The Kinmans interest me because of the zero-hum.
    Having a set of those for higher gain purposes would be great.
    Sometimes I cannot access the controls quickly enough while playing.
    It’s important to hear the rests as well as the notes.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Those LP Specials are awesome.
     
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    Hello Cerebral Gasket and P90 Fans,

    How are you liking the pair of Lollars that came with your guitar? Can you give your impressions of these pickups as compared with the venerated Gibson P-90's?


    Sorry,no photos of this guitar. Have a Sapphire LP Studio that came from the factory with cream and gold screw P-90's which I hated and eventually replaced. So I have to ask - do you think the Lollars P-90's are worth the money and how do they stack up against the Gibson P-90's?
     
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    Congrats on an awesome guitar!
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.

    When I saw yours posted in the Black SG thread a while back, it fueled the GAS for one.
     
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    The video clip above has a great demo between the two.
    What did you not like about the P-90's in your LP Studio?

    The Lollar P-90's sound great to my ears.
    I have owned SG and LP Specials in the past with stock P-90's.
    It makes a difference what you plug them into as well.
     
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    Paid a little less than that for mine used during a Reverb sale. I'm thoroughly enjoying mine.
     
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    Like these ?

     
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    I have recently put a trio of Lollar P90's in an SG.
    I was initially disappointed, not in the pickups themselves but with the lack of change that I experienced.
    I was expecting a night & day difference and the voice of God.
    However in the Lollars defense, I switched from one brand of alnico 5 P90's to Lollar alnico 5 P90s.
    I now realize that my expectations were just too grandiose.

    They also sound the same to me as my older P90 Gibson doublecut, I've been told that the Gibson P90's were also alnico 5 magnets.

    I think my choice of Lollars was too similar to sound different. If that makes any sense.

    I think the quality of Lollar pickups is second to none, and they're most definitely staying in the guitar.
    I'm learning to love them on they're own terms.
     
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    That is really interesting to me. At one time, I had an Epiphone Limited Edition 50th Anniversary '1961' SG Special with Alnico P-90R and T soapbars, but, I never knew if they were Gibsons or Epis. I sold it because I hated the extremely thin neck on it, but man, those soapbars had a really nice quack to them. If I can ever find out if they were Gibson pups, then the Lollars will probably be my go to replacements, when I find a guitar to put them in.
     
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    I did the exact same thing with the Epi SG. To thin a neck, but loved the pups. They weren't Gibson, they were Epiphone P90s. You can buy the same set for below $100 and they will come with a LP Special 1 wrapped around them.
     
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    I remember reading that you had sold yours for the thin neck issue too. Not a fan of the LP Special though, cheap tuners and I have come to dislike the one piece bridge/tailpiece combo.
     
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    Tuners are easily replaced for not much.
    If you have the chance to try one (the LP Special), you'll be surprised to how much it plays like a SG.
    Why don't you like the one piece bridge, because of intonation ?
     
  19. JMon

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    No, intonation is obtainable and I still have that Wilkinson bridge I bought for the SG special I sold. I prefer two pieces because I like to deck the tailpiece and top wrap the strings. I'm convinced it sounds better that way. However, I am reconsidering as we speak. Musicians Friend has them at $129. If they go on sale for $99 I will probably get one. I can put grovers on it for $30.

    Have you had one apart before? Neck off or pups out? I hear they are not really mahogany, that they are basswood with a mahogany veneer.
     
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    Have you done A/B test of top wrap vs no top wrap?
    With top wrap I got less break angle over bridge meaning less downward pressure over bridge which decreased sustain, more noticeable at upper frets.
     
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