SG Wiki Special and Junior pages finished!

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  1. PermissionToLand

    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    Let me know if I missed any variants, I know the Special has a shitload and I'm sure there are some I'm still missing.

    https://solidguitar.wikia.com/wiki/SG_Wiki

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  2. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    That's a very good comprehensive list of the SG Specials. The SG Specials are my all-time favorite.

    2013 and 2014 SGJ could be added under the "Related" header since the SGJ is technically a 24-fret SG Special. I consider any SG with dots and at least two pickups a Special. There was also an SG Classic Faded.

    2007 GOTW had an SG Special with 3 single coils and the '67 Reissue SG Special with P-90's and the incorrect size guard for 1967.

    2007-2009 there was the SG Special Faded 3 Pickup (humbucker)

    1992 - 2013 SG Special
    The following finishes can be added:

    Worn Ebony (Faded)
    Worn Yellow (Faded)

    They are rare, but I have one of each.

    2005 SG Special Faded (Worn Ebony) rosewood board

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    2004 SG Special Faded (Worn Yellow) ebony board

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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    I have the GOTW models under "Other Variants" at the bottom of the page. :)

    I'll add those finishes though, I didn't have those.
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    What week in 2004 was yours made? (that's the 2nd, 3rd and 4th digits in the serial) Because most I'm seeing are 2007. Also, the official specs are showing a Rosewood board:

    https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-sg-special-electric-guitar
     
  5. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    My Worn Yellow SG Special Faded has serial number stamp Week 23 of 2004.
    It may have been a special run for a different market.

    Awesome. Just saw the GOTW variants at the bottom. The SGJ should still be included somewhere. It's a 24-fret re-branded Special.
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, that's the day of the year, not week.

    It seemed like most 2004s I saw while working on the page were Rosewood, but looking at archives of Gibson's website, they started listing it as Rosewood only in September 2004. And here's one that dates to December 2004 with Rosewood:

    https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?195450-2004-Gibson-SG-Special-Faded

    So that seems to narrow it down pretty well.

    I'm pretty sure the Classic came in solid Ebony, too. I'll look into it when I do a page for the Classic.
     
  7. cerebral gasket

    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Yes, 2nd, 3rd, 4th digits are day of year. I always use the old school method of decoding 8 and 9 digit serial numbers prior to 2014, since in 2014 they switched it so that the year is the 1st and 2nd digits instead of the 1st and 5th.

    The stamp on my 2004 Worn Yellow is from June 2004 (week 23).

    I agree that the SG Classic did come in solid ebony since I now have one, it's just that I never saw one before until recently. Wondering if it was originally produced for a different market and it took 14 years for it to turn up for sale used locally.
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    So you got me thinking and I just went and made a page for the Classic:

    https://solidguitar.wikia.com/wiki/SG_Classic

    From what I could find, it seems Ebony was an option as early as 2001, despite never being listed on their website as an option. Here's a serial confirming a 2001 in Ebony:

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    And then I found this thread from 2011 discussing the Classic and mentioning the option of a black finish:

    https://www.seymourduncan.com/forum...Gibson-SG-Classic-Now-849-At-Musicians-Friend

    So it may have been an on-and-off option throughout the years, or they just didn't make a lot because they figured Cherry would sell better.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    You did an awesome job on those pages. I don't think too many people realize how many different variants of the SG Special there are.

    SG Classic began in 1995 according to below...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson_SG_Special

    I have never seen an SG Classic prior to 1999.
    Here's one from 1999...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIBSON-SG-...882141?hash=item25fb98c15d:g:JNYAAOSwK5JamLIM

    I saw where you had the section for what years had ebony boards under 1992-2013.
    You can add 2000 to the list.
    Here's my 2000 SG Special in Cream.
    Originally had the gold hardware, I swapped it out to chrome.
    Ebony board on this one.

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    My first ebony board SG was a 2003 SG Special Faded with moons. I wanted another one but with dots. I searched the ESG site to find what years had the ebony boards with dots and found some members had them up to 2004. So I searched and found a 2003 with dots locally 1.5 hour drive and scooped it up. Then I found the Worn Yellow one and later on the Cream pictured above.
     
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    Oh God, Wikipedia is a joke when it comes to guitars. They're trustworthy on more obscure subjects, but with guitars you get every 14yo kid on earth adding his "knowledge", whereas a page on early Etruscan art won't have that same issue...

    The seller claims it's a 1999, but I can't read the serial number to confirm, and I try to have a high standard of proof. They weren't officially introduced until 2000, but like most launches, they produce enough beforehand to be ready for the launch, so you'll find serial numbers dating to the end of the previous year. For example, my LP Ultra was made in Oct 2006, but the Ultra wasn't introduced until 2007. I just stick to the official dates to make it cleaner and avoid confusion.

    However, if that is indeed a late '99 and it appears to be solid Ebony, I could confirm it was an option from introduction. I've asked the seller for the serial number, so we'll see...

    Okay, I didn't know the Cream w/ gold hardware had Ebony, but it was a special variant and none of the regular Specials had Ebony in 2000 as far as I can tell. Do you know if that was the only year it was produced?
     
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    I can barely make it out but I think you're right. Do you have a rough idea what years they were produced?

    So that '99 Classic in solid Ebony was made in August. And they actually did have the Classic on their website by at least October 1999. Unfortunately, Web Archive has a gap through most of 1999 and the next archived page they have is from May 1999 without any mention of the Classic. So it seems like it may have been introduced midway through 1999.

    http://web.archive.org/web/19991011...com:80/products/gibson/Limited/SGClassic.html
     
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    Just wanted to thank you for all the effort you're putting into this, and particularly for working to such a high standard of accuracy. Both of these things will make this Wiki something special for all SG lovers.
     
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    Thanks PTL for putting that together. I have a jr 60s and a 2007 Ebony Special. Would love a TV Yellow P90 special reissue.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Where's the 2013-2014 SGJ ?
     
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    oo..good job!
     
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    Missed 1960 "SG" Special. Basically, double cut Les Paul Special, but branded as an SG in the Catalogs for whatever reason.
    Here is a link on reverb.
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