Strap button issue

Discussion in 'Epiphone SG' started by Protismo, Aug 19, 2018.

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Is it possible for the horn to brake off just like that?

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  1. Protismo

    Protismo New Member

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    Hello! so i had a problem with my sg neck dive, and i decided to move the strap button from the back to the upper horn right in the middle. I used professional equipment and took my time it turned out well also the neck dive is resolved the feeling is great and personally i don't see any issues but i've read that this strap position may cause the upper horn to brake :shock::facepalm:

    I would need some advice i really don't want to brake my beauty :confused:

    Cheers!
     
  2. donepearce

    donepearce Well-Known Member

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    Can you post a pic of how you did it?
     
  3. Protismo

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    Here are the pictures.
     

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    donepearce Well-Known Member

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    Ouch, I was afraid of that. You've chosen a very vulnerable spot. The horn won't actually break off, but you can easily tear out the wood above the screw. Treat it carefully and it will be fine, but any sudden shock may do damage.
     
  5. Protismo

    Protismo New Member

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    by shock you mean a sudden bump or let's say falling off your strap?
     
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    Exactly that. Or rather, just a short drop so the strap snatches.
     
  7. Protismo

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    Alright, i will get strap locks shortly so that will pervent that, but by all means im not extra wild on stage so there shouldn't be any problems my biggest fear was that it will just happen on it's own.
     
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    Strap locks won't prevent it. It is the strap suddenly going tight that will do the damage.
     
  9. Protismo

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    so pretty much if i take good care of it and be careful on stage nothing should really happen?
     
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    No guarantees, but probably. A strap with a bit of stretch to it will make sure you put minimum sudden stress on the button.
     
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    Welcome to ETSG!

    There are many threads dedicated to the issue of neck dive on
    these boards. You could spend a pleasant afternoon reading what
    everyone else has said and done. *grins

    Or not! But there are other solutions. Since you've already drilled your
    baby, and are happy now with the balance, maybe you don't need any
    other advice. Tony Iommi plays his guitars with the button on the
    horn. I don't think yours will break unless you are careless, as described
    above.

    Other suggestions on this site for countering neck dive are as follows:

    *Remove heavy Grover Rotomatic tuners or aftermarket locking tuners
    and install what the guitar was designed to balance with...

    https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_an...s/Grover_Vintage_135_Series_3and3_Tuners.html

    *Move the rear strap button higher on the body, not the front strap button.

    *Install a Bigsby, or other heavy weight on the rear of the instrument...

    You'll likely hear a lot of opinions on this site. Anyway, welcome again.
    Grab a cup of coffee and enjoy all the responses.
     
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  13. Protismo

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    Thank you both! i've just tested it on our rehersals and nothing seems to be wrong so im happy as it is i will be very careful with her :) also quick question is it possible that if i would to but her into a case and let's say it bumps into something or magically falls out of my hands (the case) might that impact the button just a bit? (altho they are made for protection and transporting guitars) who knows maybe just a simple chuck could make it go loose and rip the top off
     
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    It'll work fine on that guitar - plenty of wood surrounding the screw.
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Yes indeed.

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    donepearce Well-Known Member

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    The button is pretty well protected from accidental knocks by its position. I would be much more concerned about the headstock. Now you know the potential for damage, you will keep it in mind - and who ever drops a guitar anyway? :)
     
  17. Protismo

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    Yeah i totally agree as long as your careful with it nothing should really happen :) i've got a strat myself a vandalism replica project i made it looks really nice (the guitar Kurt Cobain used from 1991-1992 and it plays and sounds amazing) if anyone would like a picture just dm me :D
     
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    *BREAK

    DM you for the pictures???
    This is an open forum man, PICTURES or it didn't happen. Doesnt matter what shape it is. We aren't that biased or shouldnt be. Guitar p0rn is guitar p0rn, to each his own.

    In other words, lets see that strat!
     
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