Swapping my two SG Standards pups

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  1. MattySG

    MattySG New Member

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    Hi Matty ...

    Wow ... nice SG pair there ! These have about the best pickups you can find on the market, I'm dumbfounded as why you would want to swap them. What in the past few months since you bought them, made you think you could get a better tone. You seemed pretty stoked when you got them.

    But if you think of throwing them away, I could be that "away" :naughty:
     
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    I’m not throwing them away I want the 57s in the red SG and the 498t/490 in the black one . Cherry is my favourite because she got 50s rounded neck .
     
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    Ahhh .. swap from one to the other ! DOH !

    Easiest job ever if they are quick connect. On the black one, you don't even have to remove the strings. If you get them loose enough, the pickups should easily slip out.

    Remove the back cover plate and disconnect the plugs (remember which is which). Then remove the 4 corner ring screws and pull he pickup out with the wire. Installation is the reverse of that, once you've reassembled the pickups in the rings. Just be very careful not to scratch the guitar surface with the long adjustment screws when you slip them n and out. I you're efraid to do so, then remove all the strings beforehand.

    For the red one. Remove back plate and disconnect. Then remove strings, unscrew pickguard and remove it. Unscrew pickups from pickguard and put them in the black SG rings. The hardest job is not to lose a spring. They tend to fly across the room and most of the time, you won't find them, they just vanish from existence.

    Enjoy your first mod.
     
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    No need to remember, everything is marked!

    Tom
     
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    Leveling the pickups swapped into the cherry will be your biggest challenge. You can try to bend mounting tabs without breaking them(good luck) or use shims under the pickups (pita, trial and error).
     
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    2008 and 2017 have different connectors. So you will need adapters.
     
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    If hole layout is compatible, you could also swap the PCB assemblies along with the PUPs. No adapters necessary...
     
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    Uh, the 2008 is most likely to have traditional wiring. No quick method.
    Here's a photo of my 2007 SG special:
    Fig 07 Original Wiring.jpg
    You'll have to unsolder the wires. If you've never done this before, I recommend you
    pay a good luthier to do the job properly. Your Gibsons deserve the best, because they
    are already the best.

    The newer SG is certain to have a PCB.

    My suggestion: DON'T DO THIS.
    You already own two of the best guitars ever made. If you modify them, you
    destroy their value. Especially if you're trying to learn by doing. You'll find (as I did)
    that the Gibson 490R and the Gibson '57 Classic sound very similar. Swapping one
    for the other is a lot of work to end up with the same tones. The bridge pickups are
    a lot more different, one from another. But both excellent.

    Luthier school Motto:
    PRACTICE ON SCRAP

    What that means for us is: Don't try and learn how to work on guitars
    by practicing on your prized Gibson. Go buy the cheapest and orneriest
    yard sale or pawn shop POS you can find, and take that apart, and put it
    back together again using your brand new soldering iron and your brand
    new set of 'Guitar setup tools" from StewMac.
    https://www.stewmac.com/How-To/

    My dad always used to say:
    "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT..."

    If you are inclined to study guitar tech work before attempting a job
    like this, then you should buy and read a book by Dan Earlewine called
    "How to make your Electric Guitar play Great"

    Actually every guitar owner should own and keep this book.
    Earlewine also has made some great videos showing guitar tech procedures
    very clearly and explains the techniques quite well.

    https://www.stewmac.com/How-To/DVD/How_to_Wire_a_Gibson_Guitar_DVD.html

    Every guitar-mod student should own and keep this video, or the Fender one.
    Or both, if you own a collection of guitars. Erlewine is always worth reading, or listening to.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't learn how to take your guitar apart, and put it back together
    again, and set it up perfectly. Those are all good skills to have. I'm just saying don't
    start your education with your two wonderful top-of-the-line instruments.

    I began by working on an Epiphone Les Paul Special ll, which are cheap and plentiful.
    Epiphones respond really well to upgrades and setup skills.
     
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