The SG Bevel Reference Project

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  1. Dickey

    Dickey Member

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    I have to disagree with this statement. I have owned 5 or 6 '61 re-issues, including a white '013, and the "barely" bevels were no where near as perfect or aesthetically pleasing as the ones on my new Custom Shop VOS.

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    Custom Shop VOS--You can see how the bevels are more distinct & dramatic on the VOS, although it doesn't sound or play any better, or have better fit & finish than the production model. I bought it strictly for the bevels, AND because I got it at cost.
     

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    Great Pics. Does anyone know what kind of trem set up is on Bwotw modded 69 special.never seen such a thing
     
  3. Alex_SG

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    Thanx Alex.i better read up on it.rather interesting piece of hardware
     
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    Alex_SG Well-Known Member

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    No problems mate. Maybe while I'm off work I should become the unofficial Google'r and pic finder for ETSG! :cheers:
     
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    2014 Standard. I made the photos quite dark, otherwise the contours tend to get lost on a white guitar.
     

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    My eyes can't stand all this guitar porn... It's just too good to be seen!
     
  8. javamagic

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    The bevels might be OK on your guitars but you cannot disagree with the fact that they were better on the cheaper of the two models I saw. Unless...
     
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    All anyone has to do is compare a Custom Shop with a '61-'66 original.. In hand and side by side... Its almost obvious whoever designed the reissues has never even seen an early 60s SG..the inaccuracies are appalling, and what is worse, how they make such bodacious claims on how accurate of a model it is..pure BS and flat out LIES....
     
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    But why the feck don't Gibson ever take any notice of us and our gripes about their so-called "VOS" or Custom Shop SGs?
     
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    On all the newer models I've seen they still don't have the angle of the original 60's body/neck joint. I realise that this was a weakness as mine has been strengthened in the past due to cracking.
     
  12. JohnnyGoo

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    Modded 62 JR Bevels

    Heres a couple shots of upper and lower horn
     

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  13. Alex_SG

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    Man, I love that. So simple, and my birth year too! And I bet those mini-hums scream!
     
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    2011 Gibson SG Faded Special

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  15. Dickey

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    No way...The production guitar, while playing & sounding & fit & finish is just as good as the VOS, had very weak bevels. The VOS has the same bevels as the early 60s, although less rounded; almost exaggerated. The new batwing standards have pitiful non-bevels, almost as bad as the 70s Norlin SGs, which were the ugliest ever made. The biggest difference in the VOS guitars from the production guitars, is that the tip of the upper horn curves in more towards the neck, while on the production model it is more parallel with the neck, pointing more straight up. But you can't beat the bevels on the VOS;

    Trust me; I am a bevel freak. Even though I have been a Tele player for the last 30 years, as my style (chickin' pickin') doesn't work with an SG, I have owned over 50 SGs & have sold a few great playing & sounding ones just because I didn't like the bevels. Not really an SG player; I just like having one around because it is the guitar I grew up playing back in the day, & I like to be reminded of happier times.

    You have the same variations in body details with Strats & Teles, too--Some Strat upper horns point away from the body, while some curve towards it, it is not as noticeable; you really have to look for it. IMHO, Strats made during the 70s had the nicest looking bodys, with the sexiest curves, until the late 70s when the body contours started getting really shallow because, like Gibsons of the Norlin era, they started "cheaping" out on the craftsmanship. The last year of nice looking Teles was '71, when they changed the upper bout to have more meat at the neck joint, thereby making the upper bout less pronounced. It changed again in '82,on both the Strat (Smith Strat) & Tele although the body got thinner & more rounded, at least from a front on view, it looked like the pre '72, but the guitar as a whole took on a very cheap, "plasticy" appearance. Nowadays, with the exception of Custom Shop, Fenders are basically toys.

    The most dramatic variations are with 335s. The early dot ones had rounded cutaways (Mickey Mouse ears) while after the mid 60s, they became more pointy & pointed more away from the body, & the sunbursts looked the best as the binding made the cutaways LOOK more prominent. In the 70s, they totally destroyed the 335 with the ugliest horns yet. 335s are supposed to have rounded horns. leave the points for the SGs.
     
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    SO YOU'RE SAYING I'M LYING ABOUT WHAT I SAW? :dunno:
     
  17. Dickey

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    Stop shouting!

    Not lying; you can't tell from the pics. Of all the current SGs, the VOS has the best & most aesthetically pleasing bevels & is the closest to the 60s SGs, although not exact. The SG Original & 61 Sideways Vibrola model look great, but the horns are WAY too pointy to be exact representations. The production SG Standard has very shallow bevels, although it sounds & plays as well as the VOS.

    I think the trade off between the slightly inaccurate VOS & an original 60s is worth it, since I have never seen a 60s SG that will stay in tune for more than 1 song.

    C'mon...Tell me these bevels ain't gorgeous, & the best looking of any production SG made today!
     

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    javamagic Well-Known Member

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    I stand by my original statement. Think what you f***in' well like! :(

     
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  20. ypnos

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    well sir, you sure are a rude guy :dunno:
    don't have to behave like this cause he doesnot share your opinion
     

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