Um...I'm getting a 2015 Special

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  1. WDeranged

    WDeranged Active Member

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    Yeah I noticed intonation really helped the other strings, I'll have another crack at the D string tonight, I've been using the single string mode and I've maxed the accuracy setting. I don't mind 2-3 cents, I can only just discern the 4-5 cents sharpness if I really listen, just bugs me that it's there :hmm:
     
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    I spent a good hour tweaking the intonation and I think it's solved the D string issue, the low E still tunes a bit flat but the G-Force is already more accurate than my own hands and a Snark.

    I reckon I'll have it all figured soon enough :smile:
     
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    It's a lot of tweaking to get the damned thing working right, but once it is you can have a lot of fun switching tunings on the fly. Another thing that helps is to lube the nut real good.
     
  4. WDeranged

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    I've mentioned that bending strings on this guitar is much easier than the Faded, it's almost like I've gone down a gauge, is it possibly the lower neck angle doing this?
     
  5. Huntroll

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    Looking at the side view picture of your 2015 in your post #69.

    I can see how much the tailpiece, bridge and bridge pickup are tilted.

    If it takes that much adjustment to play decent, it needs to be returned and probably distroyed.

    It could be the body is somehow twisted, not flat or level.

    Don't get stuck with a dud, that kind of mis-alignment can't be economically repaired.

    I'm not going to hound you on this, but it's what I would do ASAP.

    H.
     
  6. WDeranged

    WDeranged Active Member

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    That was an official Gibson promo shot of my guitar :rofl:
     
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    koaguilds Well-Known Member

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    My 2013 70's Tribute has similar bridge settings. I think Gibson has lowered the neck angle a tad over the past 3 years, although they might not even be aware of the change:rolleyes:. Since the body of an SG does not settle and pull up like an acoustic, I don't think one would have to worry much about needing to lower the action periodically once set. I'm seeing MANY of these SG's with a low neck angle and if resets do become a need, Gibson is going to be in for a rude awakening when thousands of warrantied customers come a clanging their doors.
     
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    Don't sweat it man. Your guitar is fine.
     
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  9. WDeranged

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    Here's a funny one. I've noticed the nitro is hyper sensitive to static, it's making zipper noises all over the place. It's not a huge problem but whenever I get an especially big zap from my jeans the Boss DS2 turns itself off :rofl:
     
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    You could put a fabric softener sheet in the case perhaps.
     
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    If that doesn't work you could always plug straight in and play naked.
     
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    The neck joint on an SG (more or less a simple box joint) will not drift over time. No worries about little or no clearance under the bridge. If action ok now, it will be ok in 40 years.

    P.
     
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  13. WDeranged

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    I decided to be brave and drop my 50's wiring into her. Seems to have brightened up the 61 Zebras even more, and rolling back the volume keeps my highs so I'm very happy about that. One thing a bit weird though...the middle position is out of phase, a super thin nasal sound that's actually quite nice but I'd like to know what's going on.

    In both cases I've wired the red to the lug, the white and green together, black and bare wires to the back of the pots.

    I've read that Gibson are reversing the polarity between bridge and neck pups to accommodate the fancy wiring options they're doing lately, anyone know how I should wire these 61 Zebras?

    *edit to add quote*

    "Modern Gibson pickups, even the Burstbucker family, have the magnetic polarity reversed between neck and bridge pickups. This is especially important to know with the new Gibson quick connect for neck and bridge pickups. My 490R (neck) and '61 Zebra Reissue neck pickups (part of Gibson's Burstbucker family of pickups) have the screw coil as South polarity. The other two pickups in my two sets are a 498T (bridge) and a '61 Zebra Reissue bridge pickup and these bridge pickups have the screw coil as being North polarity.
    I figured this has to do with making the circuit card controls in many newer Gibsons easier for the factory to set up for the phase switching and coil splitting that some of the Gibsons have with push-pull potentiometers"

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    Thanks for the confirmation. Looking at your findings I need to flip the phase of my bridge pup, I just don't know which of the four wires to swap over :hmm:

    *edit*

    Am I right i thinking I need to solder the red wire (and bare wire) to the back of the pot and the black wire to the lug?
     
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    Did you do this ?

    The outcome of this test will determine how you will connect each pickups wires to the control circuitry.
     
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  17. WDeranged

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    Quid pro quo ehh? :squint:

    I just swapped the red and black wires and everything is fine now, don't have a bar magnet handy I'm afraid...
     
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  18. Huntroll

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    I made a couple calls to see where you could get small bar magnets like the one I have.

    A total stranger said all I had to do was stop by and he would give me a few - no charge.

    FYI - For pickups to have optimal operation certain things have to be in order.

    Maybe you've hit the nail on the head, I doubt it.
     
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    I went and played a 2015 Les Paul Special Deouble-cut the other day at Guitar Center (not knowing about all the changes to the 2015 models, boy was that a shock), but the hologram on that one (and I imagine all of these 2015's) has the hologram sticker under the lacquer. You can't peel it off.
     
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    Well, at least they had the sense to put it on the back of the headstock. :facepalm: Likely these will become valuable collectors items 50 years or so from now. Just like the '14s with those spiffy 120th banners on the 12th. Yeah, those'll be worth a ton some day. The SGJs might be, not because of the banner but because they were affordable and awesome. Coming from Gibson, that's gotta become a collectors' item. Can't wait to see what's coming in '16. (Insert popcorn munching gif here).
     
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