Um...I'm getting a 2015 Special

Discussion in 'Gibson SG' started by WDeranged, Jan 21, 2015.

  1. WDeranged

    WDeranged Active Member

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    I get what you're saying but I can't justify returning a guitar that plays and sounds this good. I still like the zero fret, it's certainly not something to be up in arms about as long as Gibson make spares available. The wider fretboard is purely a matter of taste but I think I like it. G-Force is great but I don't see it lasting as long as standard tuners.

    Honestly I'm more perturbed the slight depression on the back of the neck...it doesn't affect playability but then I'm crazy like that :shock:

    The real deal is that Gibson should have made these changes optional, I suspect next year's line up will be more traditional.
     
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    No hate here, bro, its AWESOME! , congrats!
     
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    58pit Well-Known Member

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    The only Gibson hate comes from IDIOTS who say...These are all good,.... these all suck,...only these have good tone,.....this wood is the only one to have........Only these years are good,......These years suck, etc, etc. There are LOADS of them out there, Hell, some here! I'm a huge fan of Norlins, I know folks that despise them. I just got a hold of Pelham Blue Epiphone SG-400 that I SWEAR TO GOD plays INCREDIBLY, in fact I can't quit playing it, as well as ANY guitar I have ever held (a alot of them). My point is, some are good, and some perhaps not so, but the generalization is what makes me mad. I'm a huge sports fan, questions about who is better that who arise daily. Case in point, OK, who is the greater Quarterback? Tom Brady or Joe Montana? OK, the question is valid, but the folks who pick one side or another suddenly think the other side sucks?? WHY IS THAT, they were BOTH GREAT! So the same applies in guitars. OK, Les Paul or SG... Many respond... SGs Rule Lps suck, or LPs are the KING, SGs suck. Well guess what, both of them KICK TAIL. I dont care if you have a 2015 GIbson, or a 59 Gibson, they can BOTH easily kick ass, and probably do.
     
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    what an interesting thread... I'm glad you posted it, because there are so many of the above types
    around who just want to dismiss the new Gibsons. I'm sure there were plenty of the same types who said dumb closed minded comments about Gibson's faded Specials, maybe 15 years ago. I wasn't online then, so I don't know. But I can guess. Criticizing the neck profile, criticizing the width...
    criticizing the finish as being cheap and worthless and over priced. *laughs
    A closed mind is nothing to be proud of...
    >but I'm glad you like your guitar, and are getting along with it. the depression on the back of the neck might be put right with steel wool. Wait till spring, and do it outside on a windy day, in order to keep
    steel crumbs from getting near your pickups magnets.
    >To me, the key words you've written are that the guitar plays and sounds great.
    That's priceless IMHO. Forget all the comments about how you should return it. No, you should play it
    and adjust everything to get it the way you want it. It sounds like you're well on your way to that,
    and this thread can be read by many others on these boards who might be considering supporting our favorite guitar company we love to criticize.
    >Anyway, best wishes... you have a beautiful guitar, no one can say it isn't. don't let anyone's bad tempered remarks put a damper on your enjoyment. if it plays and sounds great, it's head and shoulders above most other guitars. there's too much cork sniffing going on already. the only cure for that is to ROCK THAT SUCKER...
     
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    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    Consider the name of the source of the odoriferous post. A Teutonic hobgoblin, perhaps?
    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
    He is but one of a host of airbeaters I have come to call jeerleaders. They post, only to deride others and display their "superior" standards and tastes They are the type of folks who video their entire vacation, just to show the terrible room and awful service to their guests at the homecoming party. But there's room for all, under the big tent, right?:hmm:
    ;>)/
     
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  6. WDeranged

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    I wanted this thread to be as honest as possible, all the ups and downs. At the very least I find it useful for organising my thoughts about the guitar but I do hope others find it helpful.


    Here's a shot from someone with a depression in exactly the same area. You can see how the reflection widens around the 3rd fret marker. It's probably in the wood rather than the finish but I don't know much about these things. I'm not above trying home remedies but I think the only real solution would be to put a few layers of lacquer over the depression and buff down...a bit advanced for me :ohno:


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    I love the look of that guitar, JMHO I would not put a pick guard on it. I would buy the plastic sheet that clings to the body of the guitar. Its like a scratch condom. They cost about 4 bucks and it will save the original and beautiful look of your guitar from annoying pick scuff and scratches. I don't like to put holes in the face of a guitar that didn't already have them, but thats just me.
     
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    ohhhh man...............that freakin purty.........
     
  9. WDeranged

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    Yeah I'm coming around to leaving her naked...
     
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    Zero fret spare arrived today from the USA, very quick. The wear on my current one doesn't seem to be getting any worse, seems like it's 'bedded in' or at least the wear is so slow that it won't be a problem for a few years :yesway:
     
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    Love my '15 Special. Of course I did mod it right away. Gibson Deluxe tuners, black plastic trim and pickguard, TKL case and some D'Ardario 10's. The neck is great for my big hands, the Z-FAN has not been a problem as some have reported and the '61 Zebra PUPs are awesome.
     
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  12. WDeranged

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    Um...I sold it :ohno:

    I loved the sound but the neck width kept distracting me, also it had a really severe static problem with the nitro finish. All in all I decided to stick with my old faded, everything feels right and I don't get all obsessive about finger prints and dust.
     
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    game over... But if you have an SG faded special, then I understand how difficult it would be for any other
    guitar to impress you. You don't need all the shiny and all the innovations, because you've got one of Gibson's
    best IMHO. Pretty hard for any other guitar to stand up against a faded special SG IMHO. I was very curious about
    how Gibson's innovations would work in the practical world. I don't own any, because I'm happy with my more
    traditional guitars.

    If your faded special can free you from OCD and allow you to just play music, then it's doing its job.
    A shiny one that gets you fussing over small flaws in the hand work... well that seems like an exercise in frustration.
    Better to just play the one you have. Me, I thought your SG was cool, and I would never have sold it. I would have taken some
    sandpaper to the back of that neck and smoothed it out, and moved on. I don't know if hand buffing the finish would
    have an effect on static buildup, but I would have found out. aye well...

    I read this whole thread with interest, because I was genuinely interested in what your experience might be.
    That fact that it was less fun and more hassle shows Gibson what they needed to do in order to survive. And by this
    Star-Date in 2015, it looks like they are doing it... People who have posted NGD 2016 models don't seem to be having
    as many quality issues. So we all move on.

    Watch the collectors of the future (if any) go nuts over the 2015 models... they didn't sell well and it's likely that not
    very many were made, and a large percentage of the ones that got sold were modded. So somebody who owns an
    unmodded 2015 Gibson will have SOMETHING OF a rarity. AMAZO! But not me. *shrugs

    My vote in the great 2015 Gibson debate was to buy an Epiphany ES-339 P-90 Pro... mine cost me $339 plus money for
    a good case and a good bridge and a good set of tuners and a good nut and an ebony pick guard for fun. And I've had no
    quality issues with it, after replacing everything suspect. My two Gibson SGs are still the best guitars in my collection, but I like
    my Epi really well. go figure... I bought both my Gibson SGs new, and had zero quality issues with them. Lucky me, I guess.
    I'm still curious about all this innovation, and since I use alternate tunings in addition to standard, I'd find a robot guitar
    VERY useful. But since I own multiple great guitars, I get to do alternate tunings the traditional way, by keeping different
    guitars in different tunings and hauling them all to the gig. It's part of the show.

    funny how auto-correct wants me to have an Epiphany every time I mention my Epiphone. I'm sort of used to it now.
    P-90 p'ups have that effect on me anyway.
     
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    You had to do what you had to do. Nothing wrong with that! Enjoy your faded!
     
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    Congrats, WDeranged. And not to hijack the thread, but I recently bought a new 2015 as well - a Les Paul Special Double Cut on close-out, and I have to say that I like it a lot.

    I've had no problems (so far) with the G-Force or the brass adjustable zero fret nut. Not a fan of the scribble or hologram, but that's a minor issue to me.

    Really like the lower frets.

    As Biddlin says though, you have to read the manual on the G-Force to get the full understanding/benefits of it..

    The wide neck is different, no doubt - but I have no problem switching back and forth between this one and my other axes.

    The P90's in this LP Special absolutely ROCK - and that's the main reason I had to have it... (That, and the nice 'on clearance' low price that I snagged it for...)


    edit: Just saw your latest post that you sold it!

    Oh well... I'm definitely gonna keep this '15 LP Special, however.

    (Love my Faded as well, though!)


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    With the wide neck I really enjoyed playing solos on the lower frets, it was smooth and bends felt easier but once I got higher up I felt like I was struggling against the wood, it's really wide up there! I don't regret buying (and selling) the guitar as I learnt a lot about what I like and don't like...I never thought I'd dislike a nitro finish but I do :ohno:
     
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    well and so... it's good to hear from someone who's got a 2015 and is enjoying it.
    I'll say one thing about that year class... they are lovely to look at. And a double cut lester
    with P-90s and a wrapover bridge... Classic rock tone. The Les Paul name seems okay
    on yours... I just don't like seeing it on an SG. Les felt that way himself.

    I'm sure the wide neck would be okay with me... I just don't seem to suffer from the aversions
    people go through over neck shapes. Or at least not as much. I tried to play a Rickenbacker 325 once
    and hated it instantly. It felt like a toy. I watch Lennon playing his so well, and can hardly believe it.
    Of course, once he got his hands on his Epi Casino he might not have liked that little cramped up Rick
    any more. *shrugs ...but he could sound good on any guitar, including George's SG.
     
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    I'm really enjoying my '15 Special - more so than I ever thought I would, but all the "issues" on the 2015's are legitimate concerns to many, and I do get that. I was in that camp myself until I played this one.

    Just speaking for myself, however, I've not had any problems/issues with the G-Force tuners (so far), and if they do go belly up down the road, I understand it's a fairly simple swap out for Grovers. The brass nut so far is not an issue, and I have learned to adapt to the wider neck fairly easy.

    The tone of the P90's in this guitar is what sold it for me - I absolutely love the stock slug alnico P90's in this axe!

    The gloss nitro finish on mine is really nice, and I loved the grain pattern on this one. Also, it didn't hurt that it was $599.99 on clearance, and weighs only 6.10 lbs..


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    Wow! That's a pretty sweet deal on the DC.

    Well done!
     
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    Thanks, Bullfrog. I just couldn't turn it down at that price..


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