Unsure if my Gibson SG is fake or not can anyone help?

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  1. Sipix22

    Sipix22 New Member

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    Hi guys, ive had a Gibson SG for a few years now and ive only recently took it apart, it was a gift from when i was alot younger, but im seeing a few strange things about it, my issues are:

    My serial number checks out
    Truss rod cover has two screws
    Mini pots, unbranded
    Switch and jack are also unbranded
    Humbuckers just state F and R
    Bridge had sung-il BM002 made in korea on the bottom
    the serial number and made in US printing looks substandard
    The pickup cavity was painted black
    Truss rod cover doesnt have any writing on
    All the SG specials had big scratchplates, mine has a small one

    im really unsure, part of me thinks it really is fake but the serial checking out makes me think otherwise, i can provide pictures if needed.
     
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    donepearce Well-Known Member

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    Pictures please - good ones, with close-ups of the headstock, tuners, neck joint, frets, bridge, scratchplate, pickups, the inside of the control cavity - every bit that has checkable details.
     
  3. smitty_p

    smitty_p Well-Known Member

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    Yes, pictures, please.

    Others will undoubtedly comment, as well. But, here are my thoughts:

    My serial number checks out

    --Not necessarily proof of anything

    Truss rod cover has two screws

    --That's good.

    Mini pots, unbranded

    --That is suspicious.

    Humbuckers just state F and R

    --No other label?

    Bridge had sung-il BM002 made in korea on the bottom

    --That is suspicious. Does it also have large, metric studs?

    the serial number and made in US printing looks substandard

    --We need to see pictures.

    The pickup cavity was painted black

    --No opinion. I don't know if Gibson did that on some years. My initial thought is suspicious, though.

    Truss rod cover doesnt have any writing on

    --Many Specials had nothing on the truss rod cover.

    All the SG specials had big scratchplates, mine has a small one

    --Not true. Some years of Specials had small pickguards.


    Like Don mentioned, post pics. Get some from the areas of concern as well as full shots of the guitar. Often the knob layout is an instantaneous, dead-giveaway.
     
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    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    Say, that does sound suspicious! Is the trussrod adjuster a 5/16" hex head
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    i had a bridge like that on a Epi or a LTD ESP. Good clue with the truss rod adjuster to . sounds suspicious to me.
     
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    On a brighter note it could very well be a genuine Gibson husk, that someone stuffed with Asian parts like pickups, pots, bridge etc... to flip.
     
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    Good comments by smitty_p. Pics will definitely help.
     
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    Six String Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome to ETSG! :smile:
     
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    Ever actually seen one of those? I have not, but assume a very few exist. Metric parts do not fit Gibsons, generally. I have seen a couple of Les Pauls where the pickups were swapped with Epis and the owners never suspected until I mentioned it during service, but I suspect that is even quite rare.
     
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    koaguilds Well-Known Member

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    I think I have seen a bizarre year back in the late 80's or early 90's where Gibson used a metric tune o matic bridge on a lower line SG. I can almost swear I've seen an official ad with said bridge but maybe my senility has hit.
     
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    Biddlin Well-Known Member

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    I think that may be the case, but can't find any documentation. (It may also have been a special run, intended for a particular dealer or market.)On a whim I just checked a friend's Goddess, and confirmed the bridge was imperial scale.
     
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  13. Tony M

    Tony M Well-Known Member

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    I guess it's up to me...

    Does the guitar feel good?
    Does the guitar sound good?
    Does the guitar do what you ask of it?

    If the answers are yes, yes and yes does it matter where it was made?
    "A difference that makes no difference is no difference."

    A good guitar is a good guitar.
    End of story.
     
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    Raiyn Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, his only issue will come if he decides to try and sell it as the real deal.
     
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    Tony M Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that would be the main concern IMHO as well.
     
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    smitty_p Well-Known Member

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    Now, THAT'S the Tony_M we all love and remember!!!

    Welcome back, Tony!
     
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    Relic61 Well-Known Member

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    Well the OP has one post & this was put up last Tuesday with no pics or a reply since posting... was it something somebody said or has that sad sinking feeling in the pit of his stomach kept him from coming back & facing his fortune??

    So many questions awaiting answers that we may very well never get now..
    Meh! So anyway, Tony's BACK !!!

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    You know what time it is!

    Time for those dancin' girls! Yeee Haa!

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    Hoochie Mama! Not those dancin' girls! The classy ones!

    Like Tony.

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    There ya go! Welcome back Tony!

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  18. Razor

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    Well said Tony M.
     

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