Upper fret death

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  1. rfiori9

    rfiori9 Active Member

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    I have a 77 standard that I just picked up and notice when playing notes on the E and B strings on the 20, 21 and 22nd frets the notes die after about a second. It's even worse when I bend the strings up there. Is it because the guitar has fretless wonder frets? I'm almost positive they are fretless wonders.
     
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    Read the upper fret buzz thread. Everything you need is there
     
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    Norlin SG Well-Known Member

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    Could you post a link to it? I couldn't find it.
     
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    Did that thread help at all man?
     
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    rfiori9 Active Member

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    Nah
    Mine doesn't buzz at all the note just dies when I bend the string. I'm going to talk to my luthier about it. I have a feeling it's because the frets are so low
     
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    syscokid Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking that is quite possible. Your actual technique and the physical size of your fingers might not be creating a clean anchoring point between the strings and frets. It's pretty crowded in that area, and low-wide frets makes it even worse.
     
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    Fret out is almost always the result of bad set up. For frets above the 15th, raise your bridge a tiny bit until it goes away.
     
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    And it really should not be happening on a Gibson. It can be a big problem on small radius necks like Strats and Teles.
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    Did they change the radius with those narrow '70s necks though?

    In any case, I'd say it's most likely excessive fret wear. The guitar is 40 years old for chrissake! You need a level or possibly new frets, they don't last forever.
     
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    It's in the shop now getting a set up and fret dress so I'll see when I get it home
     
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    Cool man , let us know how you go.
     
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    Really? In the OP, you said it did.
     
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    He said it doesn't buzz, just dies out.
     
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    rfiori9 Active Member

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    So I just got my SG back and it was indeed the neck that needed an adjustment. I misunderstood the seller and thought the guitar had been set up before he shipped it. Now it plays great with nice sustain at the upper frets but notes still die out (but no where near as bad as before) at the upper frets when I bend the string but I know that is due to the fretless wonder frets.
     
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    Sigh....There are some dark corners that will not be illuminated.
     
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    Wich strings gauge are you using?
     
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    Daniel.S Well-Known Member

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    Guitars you buy that are 'setup' will need a setup once you've brought it home. No ifs or buts.
     
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    DR blues 10s
    I always use 10s
     
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    Daniel.S Well-Known Member

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    Lift the bridge up a smidge.
    Take a pics so we can get an insight of how it’s sitting
     

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