What '61 Reissue shall i be looking for?

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  1. Lino22

    Lino22 New Member

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    Hi guys, i am new in the amazing world of SGs. I have played my Les Pau '77 for over 20 years, and now i wanna get him a little brother.

    Is there any recommended year or time period for '61 Reissue, or none of them really stands out?

    Someone nearby sells one made in 2000, but it goes for about 1.800 USD, which is not that cheap. I can wait, no rush, i signed up here to collect some knowledge first :)
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    Welcome!

    What makes you want a ‘61 Reissue as opposed to a regular Standard or other model such as a Junior or Special?
     
  3. Lino22

    Lino22 New Member

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    Mick Taylor.
     
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    Ray Well-Known Member

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    Hi there and welcome to the loony bin!
    Mick Taylor is one of my absolute faves - all time!:smile: I guess he played a early sixties Standard, since its got a small pickguard. Also I think I read somewhere that he fitted the guitar with a Bigsby, that the Bigsby was not stock on that SG.

    Rolling-Stones-2.jpg
    (how cool is that pic?:D)

    Now. To your question: Me, I can't anwer it, I haven't got full overview on so-called Reissues/Historics/Custom Shops but there are members here that have!:smile:

    I dont know what your budget is, but ...
    Most "Mick Taylor-guitar" for the money IMO: Get a close-to-mint, second hand 2018 SG Standard, they are great IMO. Superslim necks, cool PU's ... all you could want from a early sixties-type Standard.

    If I'd buy a new Standard-type SG, I could easily go for the brand new SG Standard '61. I played a couple of those and they are real nice. Those 2019 Burstbuckers sounds good, too. The 2019 SG Standard '61 seemed like a guitar I easlily could have bought. I got a 2018 Standard (which is just an awesome-duper + guitar, especially after I swapped the bridge pu for a BNP Riff Raff!) and the 2019 SG Standard '61 has pretty much the same specs as the awesome-duper 2018 Standard.

    But waaait ... Just a second here ....

    Mick Taylors SG, did it have a wide, flat neck?
    I found this, very surpising to me at least:
    https://www.gear4music.com/news/art...-SG-guitar-had-a-superb-action/2AL/2010-08-18

    The article states: Talking to the guitar manufacturer's website, Taylor stated that he used an SG guitar during the Stones' 1969 tour and is currently trying to get hold of one similar to it.

    "I just remember loving that guitar," he recalled. "It had a very wide neck and a very flat neck and the action was absolutely superb. And the sound was good, too."

    So... I wonder if the neck on his SG (and on some of the other early sixties SG Standards) was maybe more like the neck on those recent SG Juniors, with wide, flat necks ...? I dont know if those necks is stock on any Standard-type SGs. Someone will probably chime in here on this.:smile:

    PS. That intro-riff on "Stray Cat Blues" from "Get yer ya-yas out" was one of the first "real" riffs I ever learned, at the age of 12, hehe...Still love playing those Neil Young-ish notes, hehe. Learned it from my big brother, who back then even had an Ibanez SG! Woah! :D)
     
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    cerebral gasket Well-Known Member

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    I had a 2009 SG '61 Reissue with a wide flat neck in the past.
     
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    AHA!:smile:
     
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    To your question, the guitar that most approximates the Gibson SG Standard from 1961, this would be their Custom Shop 1961 Reissue. If you dont have $5k to throw away on that, go with a 1992 Gibson USA '61 Reissue. Those have one piece bodies, narrow bridge and wide peghead like the original.
    The new "61 Reissue" SG is just a bone Standard with small guard, no resemblance whatsoever to the 1961 Gibson SG Standard. And it's still a damn nice SG at that. Happy hunting.
     
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    Brussels Affair...unbelievable. This from Hyde Park. ya yas 3.jpg
     

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    Col Mustard Well-Known Member

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    I'll suggest something that no one else has...
    Choose your guitar by playing as many as you can.

    Go in person to places where they sell SGs
    and play as many as they'll let you.
    The '61 ReIssue you should buy is the one that
    seems to come alive in your hands when you play it.

    Ignore all general statements about this year class or that one.
    Ignore all general statements about neck shapes.
    Don't take advice from strangers (like me) who know nothing
    about your music. Choose your guitar by listening to its tone
    and feeling the weight and the neck and the balance
    and the action. That's how you know.
    You can learn a lot on this site, but then
    you make up your own mind. ...by listening.

    It doesn't matter if it's a 61 ReIssue or a Standard or a Special
    if it comes alive in your hands. When you play it and you know
    this is the one, then it doesn't matter what year it was made or
    what color it is or whether it's got binding or none.
    It doesn't matter if some famous player played one something
    like it. You'll never get the tone that some famous player got
    somewhere in time and space. Because you can never reconstruct
    their whole signal chain.

    What matters is how it feels in your hands and how it sounds
    through your own signal chain. Too many prospective buyers get
    way too hung up on superficial details. Don't fall into this trap.

    It's the tone and the feel... expressed through your own pedals
    cables and amps. And that's all. We can tell you what WE like,
    but you still have to play as many as you can, seeking the one that
    has been waiting for you. It's out there.

    That said, the Gibson SG '61 RI is one of the best guitar models
    ever made, IMHO. In general, you can just close your eyes and
    pick one. They are all made to very high standards, all you need
    to do is get it set up properly and it's the guitar of a lifetime.

    They don't lose their value so quickly, unless you indulge your
    fantasies and are seduced by mod fever. Mod a '61 RI and turn it
    from a prize guitar into whatever. So a '61 that's been butchered
    is a good candidate for restoration. Buy it cheap, because it's lost
    its value, and restore it to stock and turn it back into a prize.

    Good luck in your quest. Your dream SG is out there somewhere.
    But you cain't hunt for it online. You have to go in person, and play
    a lot of them. Buying an expensive guitar online without ever playing
    it is like gambling. I don't like gambling. I like a sure thing.
    But if you MUST gamble, any Gibson SG '61 RI should be considered
    a good bet.
     
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  10. Lino22

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    Thanks guys i am glad i am at the right place.
     
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    PermissionToLand Well-Known Member

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    What he considers "wide and flat" may just be what you consider normal. It's all subjective when it comes to vague descriptions like that. His SG looks like a '61-62. So it would be roughly similar to the Slim Taper found on '61 RIs or Historic Standards. Of course, there was a lot of variation back in the '60s, neck shapes weren't standardized like today. Angus Young's '71 SG was so thin that Gibson itself couldn't believe it, while the '69 I've played was a damn baseball bat!

    To the OP: You will surely hear people arguing that coincidentally the year their SG was built was the "last good year". In reality, there are good guitars from every year and in order to actually determine whether any year is better than another in any scientific way, you would need to directly compare hundreds of SGs from each year since the '61 RI was introduced in 1992. I guarantee you nobody has done that.

    I would argue that almost any guitar can be great if properly set up and having good pickups. I can't rule out the possibility of "duds", but I have never found one personally that didn't just need some TLC.
     
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    Daniel.S Well-Known Member

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    The 2016 ‘61 may be a good option, they’re listed as a proprietary run.
    That is, if you’re looking for something a bit newer.
     
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