What is a "nitrocellulose finish"?

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  1. DoodoaXD

    DoodoaXD Well-Known Member

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    Apparently my stand has this foam that isn't friendly to guitars with this finish. Does an SG Special non faded have this finish? I've heard that really expensive guitars have this, so probably not mine. Thanks!
     
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    Yes, your Gibson does have a nitro finish, so you have to be careful about certain chemical reactions, apparently (I haven't run into this, but then I only lean mine against case fur or something wood based). Some people have sweat that doesn't get along with nitro.
     
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    Lacquer...

    10-12 coats leveled and polished for high gloss finish. Time consuming and labor intensive, so more expensive.

    I think the new sgj's and others , use a matte or satin finish lacquer.

    Faded's and melody makers do not use grain filler before the lacquer, therefore the lacquer sinks into the grain.

    As far as I know, Gibson always has and still does use nitrocellulose lacquer for all guitars.

    If you're concerned about the foam on your stand, lay a washcloth over the foam part that the guitar touches.
    Once it's fully cured, it shouldn't be a problem.
     
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    DoodoaXD Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, my hands sweat like a river...
     
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    That's not a dealbreaker; not all sweat is the same. Only that in some cases the acidity or whatever in an individual's sweat can react with the nitro in some way.

    Apocryphal tip heard on guitar boards, so I don't know what the "scientific" criteria are. If you're sweating on the guitar now and everything is fine, chances are you have "nitro friendly" sweat lol. I do remember from painting cars with it, that some types of tree sap, or bug guts, or berry juice could burn a nitro finish, but wouldn't touch a factory Ford finish. You had to be careful which types of wax to use, that sort of thing.

    Nitro isn't like urethane, though, it does react to UV, sweat, certain cleaning agents and other things differently. It's more sensitive in general. But I likes it!
     
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    The guitar still didn't come here yet, but I realized that my hand won't be touching the guitars body, mostly the pickguard and neck.
     
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    well, don't let your guitar rest on this stand, cause it will leave marks on the finish..but you can do nothing about the sweat.just play it as soon as it arrives and dont care.

    myself wouldnot leave my guitar on a stand that can hurt my precious guitar, but the damage that will or might be caused by my sweat, is something i don't really care,cause a guitar is made for playing her.if your sweat attacks the finish, then be happy cause this means that your guitar was played and served her purpose..

    let me tell you also, that i like the marks that are created on the guitar due to playing
    you can understand which guitar guitar has been left unplayed after ten years, and which guitar has been used after ten years

    my point, dont let your guitar be damaged, but dont care about the marks that your hands wil leave on your guitar after a lot of usage. these are honest and damn sexy marks

    when you get her, please post a lot of pictures of her. we love pictures of SGs
     
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    Will do man, I like the way you think of guitars. :)
     
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    also, given that you live in Egypt, pay attention to direct sunlight (UV) exposure, sea salted air and smoke
     
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    Sweat, body oils etc. may react with nitro finishes, but you can reduce the impact by wiping down the guitar with a clean cotton cloth after you're done playing.

    They do make nitro-friendly stands, but I don't know if they guarantee them. I have cotton cloth wrapped around the rubber on mine to protect the nitro finish.

    I've heard nitro never completely cures ... it just dries. Not sure if that's true.
     
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    I don't usually play out when it's sunny, and I don't live best to the beach, but thanks!

    I guess I'll put something on the stand like a cloth or whatever, or probably get a new stand.
     
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    Isn't Alexandria on the seaside??

    A cloth on the stand foam/rubber will do just fine. Keep in mind that nitro also reacts to the material (leather, fake leather) your strap is made of, so take it off when you are not playing and to excessive temperature peaks and changes. You live in a very hot area therefore watch out if you get in an air conditioned room from a hot place, and dont leave the guitar, even in its case, in places where the temperature might get high (like trunk of your car).
     
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    Alex is at the seashore, but I live far away from where the beach is. It's pretty hard to explain. But I'll keep an eye out for all the things you said. (Or All The Things She Said) *waits for someone to get the reference*
     
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    I understand Jagermeister in the sweat counteracts this nitro sweat/allergy. That being said, all mine are holding up nicely.
     
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    ....and Jack Daniel's in the neck pocket improves sustain in bolt-on guitars.

    another derailing thread?
     
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    Switch to Whiskey Pit, or RUM!
     
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    Oh don't worry ole buddy Jack Dan is a GREAT freind of mine as well.
     
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    Don't mean to sound like an idiot but um... What's Jagermeister and whatever you guys are talking about?
     
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    It's the road to perdition, DoodoaXD. They are suggesting that the degenerate alcohol abuser produces sweat that is friendly to Gibson finishes.

    While I have no scientific proof of that, I do have some real world experience with these methods, and conclude that your guitar may look better, but would sound like crap. Costs and benefits, lol.
     
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    That's OK Doodoa, I'm not quite sure what perdition means, so don't feel pregnant.
     
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